Common sense is determined by culture. Watering tomatoes plants every 2 weeks would be common sense to a person who lives in an environment where everybody grew their own food. It wouldn't, however, be common sense to person who buys their groceries at, say, a market.

So correct me if I'm wrong. Are you saying your sense of right and wrong came from your culture?

Yes, I think so. (your example is pretty shaky though)

Could you tell me how a religious book tell you murdering homosexuals is morally wrong ?

Do you think being homosexual is morally wrong (not murdering one, being one) ? If you think being homosexual is morally ok, how did you come to think this since religious books, if taken literally, state otherwise ?

So if this is true, then you would have no problem admitting that there is nothing wrong with pedophilia or cannibalism, right? That a pedophile is just as morally right and good as a non-pedophile? That although you personally don't like cannibalism or pedophilia you don't believe they are worse, objectively, than stealing change out somebody's car? That a pedophiles idea of morality is just as right and valid as your own?

He would have problem admitting it, because he comes from a culture that do not accept those things. It's not a personal choice, it's a choice we as humans made collectively in most cultures in the World.

Plus, I won't get too shady but it's rich to question atheist stance on pedophilia when some religion are notorious to have a problem there if you catch my drift, huh.

Here we go again

"moral" is a religious construct.

as someone who believes in an "all knowing-powerful god", he quite made double standards to "his own creations". The irony in your post with the examples you gave are all being done by religious people, sometimes with the influence of their culture, also a man-made concept. "Morality" shames sexuality, especially female sexuality. "Morality" also accepts multiple wifes, child marriages and cutting skin on baby penises and in some cases vaginas too, so they can be "morally pure" because of "god". Shaming people, especially women for not being "clean virgins" until marriage, so god wouldn't get triggered by their "filth" and send them to hell, among many, many, many examples I could write a whole essay about.

Atheists, at least the majority of them, follow scientific reasons as to why some things we do is gonna create something positive, or negative consequences for our society. Why for example would masturbation be okay and murdering our child for not listening to our commands not be okay.

i believe that religion was made up to tame the disgusting human kind
i don't believe that religion was sent from god because there are like 2000 religions and they all claim that their own is the true and only religion and the rest are wrong
there is no god nor heaven and hell

Would make sense, I mean it's not like religions are the reason for most wars, and division within the World. Thank god religions united us !

Same.

You're from Saudi Arabia. What's it like being a nonbeliever there?

Are religious people pro paedophilia and violence against gays because of they're moral law giver who approves of such acts in 'holy' texts?

it's caused by the ignorant uneducated people who follow religions but some religions don't promote violence

That's true, but the most followed ones do.

as long as you pretend to be a muslim you're okay, you can't live there as a none believer or you won't be breathing fresh air, even if you believe in other religions it's not acceptable and it's punished (if you're saudi of course), if you're a foreigner i don't think you'll have a problem but you can't practice your religion in public

Well, do you need to count on a holy book to know right from wrong?

Common sense?

I do not belive in abolute morality. So before you think about what's right and what's wrong you have to ask yourself: How would I feel if someone did that to me? Do I even wish someone would do that to me or make me feel that way? Do I want to be in his/her/its place? If the answers are no, then it's not right.

I do not believe that a deed is either always right or always wrong, unlike religious teachings.

You may have contradicted yourself. You said you don't believe in absolute morality, then you went on to give a (objective) standard for morality. Where did that standard come from? And do you believe that standard applies to just you or that it applies to everybody?

I may be wrong here but I see a lot of you saying you believe something that deep down you may not really believe. If morality is relative/ subjective, then does it is really exist?. Everything is right, nothing is truly wrong if this is the case. Do you guys really believe that pedophilia, murder, rape, cannibalism, torture, racism, homophobia, etc are just as morally right as helping others, giving to the poor, sacrifice, protecting the innocent, etc. Because this is what you're saying you say that absolute morality doesn't exist.

No society secular or religious has come to those conclusions so I'm not sure what's your point. Root your arguments in reality please.

Can you explain to me how religion taught you homophobia isn't wrong please ?

Most philosophers and moral theorists are moral realist or those who hold that morality is real and objective. It is the distortion economics, politics, religion and culture do to morality that makes it appear to be subjective.

loveless stop being a religious apologist and trying to come for atheism with your weak hypocritical arguments, yet ignoring the fact your "absolute morally correct god" thinks that murdering your own children for not listening to their parents is morally correct thing to do.

y'all still going?

Is loveless even an atheist?