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so how well informed are you? wtf have been hiding under a rock? this has been a huge debate for over a year, and it blew up again this week thanks to Lund commune talking about it.
it´s a way to get them back to society they say, and while that may be true for some it´s spitting the victims in their faces, and a huge part of first and 2nd generation immigrants here, from those parts of the World, are horrified by this.

so don´t bring up "right-wing BS" card when you don´t even know the facts

Ludicrous comparison, at least try to think it through, WW2 involved entire countries fighting and conscription en masse, what were they supposed to do throw millions in jail? The actual equivalent to this (apparently fake) story would be if they brought former Nazis to the US and made sure they were well looked after.

doing wrong in the past doesn´t make it ok to make wrong again.
and u do know that alot of IS-tourists were pretty well educated and already had jobs and families when they left right? don´t be so naive

to y´all thinking this is fake, just google search and translate the Swedish articles
i can´t with the delusion here but do you...

Send them to Russia instead

whatever you say

except one had political ideology that are easy to ship and change history while other has religious ideology behind it. ISIS being defeated wouldn't mean that suddenly people who were beheading people because of faith would suddenly become a changed person. Political belief and religious belief are 2 highly different mindsets. ISIS wouldn't even exist in the first place if you could kill or change people's minds about their religious faith that are followed by their "holy book and god" and a political belief brought up by a man.

ISIS is mostly a vehicle for all of Saddam Hussein's Baathist senior officials and military officers who were put out of work when the US occupied Iraq. They want territory, wealth, and power. It's all political. They don't give a damn about religion. That's just the ruse they use to sucker the rubes in to fight and die for them.

tbh

sis, political extremism can be as bad as religious extremism

the first part obviously is a political reason that came within', but ISIS was created because of how people didn't worship Quran as strictly as others. They apply rules and laws strictly from Quran, not from a man in political power.

no one denied that, both when in power are dangerous, but people move from political ideas/agendas, but not from religious ones, which is what I was explaining. Political ideologies always died down in history, yet religions always survived and still influence harm and wars to this day because the rules in their book has faith of fear for afterlife attached to them.

how is this even relevant to the original post

also you're not even correct: people can be dogmatic in any belief system, whether it be political or religious. the point here is that there many militants who will need to return to a normal life (i.e. they'll need a job) after ISIS has been disbanded. it won't be safe for many of these former militants to return to their own countries, but something must be done with them. the easiest way to go about this is to treat them as refugees and integrate them into an economy.

If what you say is true, that's much better, but it's still a cause for concern because ISIS members could just lie about defecting from ISIS. It's a bit risky and potentially putting the people of Sweden in danger.

If there are any homeless people or people in poverty in Sweden this is disgusting. I couldn't imagine how it'd feel to be a homeless person in Sweden to know that former ISIS members will be getting a house, etc. while they get ignored.

Also, from what I've seen Sweden has become a LOT more right-wing in the past couple of years. If the elites there want to keep people left-wing they need to stop doing things like this, because everything they do like this will just make people more and more right-wing, in 10 years they could be electing their version of Hitler if things go too far and people get too angry about it.

nope I'm being dead serious

Did someone try suggesting religion is inherently more dogmatic than a political belief? NOT when people out are here wanting to bomb and massacre 1.2 Billion people due to militant atheism as a violent ideology. I know some of y'all hate religion, but don't be blind to the evils of other beliefs, or importantly HOW THEY OVERLAP. Political belief, religious belief, and societal bigotry all contributed to one of the worst incidents to happen on this Earth just this century. If you only want to tackle religion, you're not for progressiveness.

so you think that killers, rapists, etc. deserve to have a second chance instead of going to jail for their crimes, they should be live freely because "economy"? Right.



as long as religion has hateful, intolerant and incorrent teaching, they should not be taught as an ideology to children. Religion as such should be forbidden. What people want to believe about after-life or the point of life are free to do so, but the teachings that go with practicing such dangerous belief system about how people must act intolerant with women, LGBT people as well as censoring topics about masturbation, science, etc. differently and how everyone must follow such cancerous ideology in fear of after-life is problematic. Political battles and ideologies come and go, as seen in history, while religion strongly survives, hence why it's more dangerous to society. Hope I made this clear if you could understand the point I was trying to make.