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Originally posted by Lord Blackout
There's no #AlwaysHillary about it 
The Iraq War
80% of the country supported it. It is common knowledge that Bush lied to the nation and when he went to war he completely derailed it and got greedy. The congress didn't think it'd last even a year. Bush was a disgrace.
Mass incarceration
I never said it wasn't a mistake lol. I said people need to learn the context of superpredator and the crime bill before jumping on the "HILLARY RACIST!!11!!" bandwagon. It was a bill the black caucus passionately backed. It was a bill that simply increased the funding of the justice system and made it cover all types of crimes aggressively. The racial tensions came from the justice system. And you can't blame the ****ed up racial relations in the justice system and inner cities on it either. If you know much about history, it was Reagan's war on drugs that created that. Was the crime bill a mistake? Absolutely and no democrat would deny that. It practically gave Bush the presidency. Trust the democrats to never back a mass incarceration bill again for that very reason.
Libya
To reduce this to #AlwaysHillary is completely stupid. I, unlike you guys, have first-hand knowledge and experience with the Arab Spring. I traveled to the Maghreb when it was unravel ling and have relatives who lived through it all. You guys have wikileaks and American newspapers that are always driven by an agenda. Gaddaffi was TERRIBLE. He was worth 100-200 billion dollars while his people were living in poverty. There's something called wealth inequality. A third of Libyans live below the poverty line. What good is a country's wealth if only certain people benefit from it? No wonder people hated Gaddafi. Not to mention, he wasn't a respected leader outside his country at all. He wasn't liked or respected. The Arab Spring reached Algeria and Morocco but those countries introduced reforms to their constitution and pleased the people. Libya wouldn't do that and started killing their people so Gaddaffi had to gtfo. There's no getting around it. And after the Iraq war, America can't afford to overstay their welcome anymore ANYWHERE. Libya should have gotten its **** together after Gaddaffi was gone but they didn't. They should have the entire country decide on a leader instead of having the GNC and CoD do it. They just can't help themselves.
As far as her being a SoS, she had a stellar approval rating. There's only so much you can blame on her. If she blocked the death of Gaddaffi in some way, she'd be under fire for keeping a dictator in power that Libyans were frustrated with. It's a lose-lose situation in the court of public opinion.
PS: America was only one of the many countries that armed Libyan rebels.
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So why was someone like Bernie, also an active politician at the time, against the consequences outlined in the mass incarceration bills and the Iraq war? Is that kind of wisdom so hard to come by? Cause I mean...if it is for Hillary then that's something she needs to come to terms with and link up with people much less tone deaf than she is. Especially if she'll be filling the role of president.
It should be noted I've never supported Bernie in my life, nor do I care for his presidency (his rhetoric is a bit too socialist-leaning for me), my primary concern is JUDGEMENT. And every American newspaper looking back in hindsight, observing the ACTUAL poverty conditions in Libya now, and noting the OUTSTANDING terrorist activities that has taken over the country, it's clear Hillary's judgment in siding and aiding the terrorist was wrong. That's a major issue.
And if by "killing their people" you mean terrorist, um well wouldn't any leader rid his country of terrorist? "They can't help themselves" is such a ****** thing to throw out when they were, while Gaddafi was keeping order... sis.... And if by "frustrated" you mean millions of people supporting him.... I showed you the video... It's pretty in your face, I don't know how you can't see that Libya is now a lost cause, whereas before it had some semblance of structure.
See, I too have direct ties to African thoughts, several nations actually through my own family ties, and the consensus, after doing my own due diligence is that Gaddafi was wrongly displaced. Especially considering all that Libya had to offer before in terms of education, healthcare, and security compared to where it is now. So **** "the court of opinions" on Hillary's career, that's an entire country that'll never regain its footing.
I used to be a Gaddafi hater or w/e like every other American (given the overwhelming media influence), but it was talking(!!) to some of those Libyans that I got a less tainted viewpoint.
Hillary. was. wrong. on. Libya.
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) actually ran against Jill Stein in 2012 for the Green Party nomination. Which might be the only time Jill has ever won 
She's a mess for hating both candidates so much 
but when she spoke about police brutality and how she has black relatives (through marriages in the family) and how she worries about them being victims of something someday, it was so 
Flip AZ, give us Nevada and Maine D-2 
Not sure how many of Bernie's hardcore fans will vote for our girl, but at least they seem keen on voting downballot