Li has, if anything, been even busier. She’s writing new solo songs, for a follow-up to 2014’s powerfully stripped-down and heartbroken I Never Learn. “It’s very opposite,” she says of her latest material. “I feel like I’m always doing opposite things. LIV was very analog and ’70s, and now I’m accidentally doing pop, in a very non-shameful way.” She chuckles. “I started out pop by accident, and everyone was like, ‘Oh, you’re pop,’ and I was like, ‘No, I'm not! I'm indie!’ I got really offended. And then [I Never Learn] was like the least pop album ever. Then now I'm getting back to it and feeling like, Cyndi Lauper wrote some ****ing amazing songs. That’s nothing to be ashamed of.”