Sorry but it's also the man's child, it's not just a woman's decision. Stop making this a feminist issue, it's not. Y'all are so annoying with this individualism mess. Abortion is killing an innocent life but who cares? You self centered liberals don't. I'm not 100% against abortion but there should be limits. I once saw an article from a woman who aborted multiple times because she didn't find the "right" man. Wtf?
The woman gets to decide whether she'll keep the baby or not as it grows inside her body. She has the last say no matter what. Why does a woman's life matters less? Do you know a pregnancy can be dangerous to the mother? The fetus's life depends completely on the mother, it's not a separate organism that lives and breathes on its own so please don't start with the murder crap.
If they wanna have a zillion abortions it's their choice. If they wanna have a baby it's their choice. Everyone should have a choice rather than to resort to illegal practices that cost lives in many countries which are against abortion.
Most pro-lifers aren't opposed to abortion when the woman was raped, although adoption is still the most ideal solution.
The lies. Just check out the horror Polish women are going through at the moment. Pro-lifers are murderers who only care about influence. They don't value women's life, they want us to keep dying.
Even the Bible says that the only unacceptable form of abortion is the one the woman's will. God's not an argument in this case.
I believe that any woman should be able to have an abortion if she wants one. There are so many reasons that they may need one and shouldn't be a criminal for wanting one. Rape, incest, failed contraception, the inability to support or care for a child etc..
The physical or mental conditions that endanger the woman's health if the pregnancy is continued can be traumatising.
#RepealThe8th
I believe that any woman should be able to have an abortion if she wants one. There are so many reasons that they may need one and shouldn't be a criminal for wanting one. Rape, incest, failed contraception, the inability to support or care for a child etc..
The physical or mental conditions that endanger the woman's health if the pregnancy is continued can be traumatising.
#RepealThe8th
I'd post some pics of an aborted baby, but I know that so many of you are cowards and couldn't face looking at what you blindly support.
Oh well, everyone gets their comeuppance in the end by God.
I'd post some pics of innocent people being murdered and tortured over the history of humanity that I know you couldn't face looking at what you blindly believe.
Why use your body for a pregnancy you don't want. I'm pro-choice. Besides none of these pro-life people are going to take care of the kids provide them with any food when the parent didn't even want kids to begin with.
People need to stop meddling in other people's live and let others live their own life. They aren't paying the rent or the food for the child. They are just going to sit there and point fingers and judge people who may be unfit parents or for having single parent homes or for being unable to provide for their children without government assistance. Conservatives just need to stay the **** out of other people's business....and stop using the government to try and legislate their morality onto other people.
If a woman doesn't want kids, they shouldn't be obliged to have any even if that means they need to get an abortion.
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Is it though? Rape can give these women horrible mental problems, and on top of that they carry a child from someone who they dispise and who 'changed' their life in most cases in a real big negative way. Some women need years of counceling befpre they can even trust a guy, let even date one or be touched by one. Carrying that baby for 9 months can be very sickening for these ladies and really doesn't help for their recovery or health.
I am really pro-choice on this one, maybe in a lot of different cases pro-life. But when it comes to rape, I think the mother should 100% have the right to do whatever she wants and not be judged over it, because she has been through enough already to have to make such descision in the first place
Neither of you have made the case for why it's OK to kill an unborn child that is the result of consensual sex, though.
Women who have sex do so knowing that pregnancy is a possible result, even with birth control. If you don't like the consequences, don't have sex (at least not intercourse). Murder should not be the solution for a grown adult's choices.
It is well known that there is no birth control method that is 100% foolproof. If you don't want to get pregnant, don't have intercourse.
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the inability to support or care for a child etc..
See above.
Rape, incest, and endangerment to the mother's life are the only valid reasons for having an abortion. And honestly, even incest is pushing it, assuming that the sex was consensual.
It always should be a woman decision, maybe she doesn't want the child? Who are you to make her carry it? Maybe she doesn't have money? Maybe the child is very sick and most likely die after birth or will never be able to live on its own after birth? Maybe it's rape? The thing is it's not for you to decide. It's always a woman.
And I can tell cause I'm 5m pregnant now so I can tell you how difficult such decision would be even if you don't feel the baby yet. I tell you it must be either tragic decision (rape, medical condition) that needs psychological support later on or just a woman doesn't feel anything for the baby she's carrying and in that case I think it's better to not have child that won't get love and mos probably get blamed for all parent's mishaps.
You know how it feels when people are so pro-life they try to prosecute woman who have a miscarriage to check if she didn't do it on purpose. How big of a monster you must be to even think about that I live in Poland and I am sickened by such ideas.
Also it is often that even when law allows you, like in Poland for now, to get abortion certain circumstances it still can be very difficult to find a doctor who will do it.
As for US, here's mind blowing segment from Emmy winner LWN
Her body, her decision. No one gets to choose what happens to a woman's body. When men are able to carry a child in their body, then their say will matter.
Why am I even surprised though?
I live in Poland and I am sickened by such ideas.