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News: US Court Rules Dreadlock Ban During Hiring Process Is Legal
Member Since: 5/18/2012
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Originally posted by Hazard
Dyed hair when natural is generally not prohibited.
Crazy and unnatural dye jobs are not permitted for obvious reasons.
A company needs to have a clean, professional, accessible image.
This won't do that:
And miss me with that white privilege rhetoric, OP.
I have never seen a white person in a position of power/authority rocking dreads. |
This depends entirely on the company. A video game company wouldn't have an issue with this. If you're applying for a law firm you better have a clean-cut look.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by RightAsRain
After the ignorant mess you vomited in the Marc Jacobs thread, I'd advise you to stay quiet!
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If someone has an opposing viewpoint to yours and after you've explained your point the person still doesn't agree, it isn't necessarily ignorant.
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Originally posted by Callisto.
One of the many being banned.
Can't wear dreads,
Can't wear braids
Can't wear twist
Afro can barely be half an inch without people complaining.
The only hairstyles that are acceptable for black men and women are a straight and low.
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I've seen so many women wear braids to work. Women of every skin color wear their hair in braids too. I've only seen problems with dreadlocks and huge afros honestly.
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Member Since: 4/7/2009
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I'm ****ing crying at someone comparing dying your hair neon pink and getting gauges/tattoos on your face to dreading your natural hair, coils, and curls that come out of your ****ing scalp. 
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Member Since: 3/14/2013
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Originally posted by Tropez
This depends entirely on the company. A video game company wouldn't have an issue with this. If you're applying for a law firm you better have a clean-cut look.
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This post sums it up. In fields like game development, software programming, network security or even digital media, what you wear or look like is irrelevant to them. It's who, what and how you know your thing that matters 100% of the time. In others like retail, it's better to go on the safer side and straighten up a bit.
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
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Land of Free strikes again
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by YSL
Won't even bother going into detail on the roots of dreads and how they've been used by different cultures in different times where others couldn't be influenced. Then again, the thought process here is that anyone wearing a cone bra after Madonna is copying despite history before that moment. 
They are also not a hairstyle that occurs naturally for any race, you have to actually work to get them there.
Giuliana Rancic would say you look like you smoke weed and smell like patchouli. 
Yikes @ you missing the point. Rebellion in the sense that you are unwilling to compromise or find a more suitable company to work with. You have two options and that's change something that does not meet their dress code or say **** it, a place like this is not a fit for me.
This woman was told ahead of time it went against their dress code, it's not like it was something that came up after she was hired.
And the type of hair styles that are considered unprofessional are a matter of opinion but each company holds the right to uphold those standards until told otherwise.
I'm talking about a hairstyle not someone's protected rights like race, gender, sexual orientation, disability. These are things that are out of people's control while hair can be changed (despite the belief on here that polished dreads occur naturally). And yes, there are over 25 states where you can get fired for being the person you were born as.
Plainly, this is discrimination while a dress code is not.
Eek LOL @ you thinking I'm white. I'm actually hispanic but instead of commenting on my "non-sense post" you should be out there making yourself useful and fighting for your rights.  |
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Member Since: 1/4/2014
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Originally posted by YSL
No wonder some of you on here remain unemployed. Trying hard to stick it to the man so you rebel against dress codes in place by companies to protect their image. Do I think everyone should express themselves freely? Yes. Do I think you should be willing to accept the consequences going into job where you are essentially an ambassador to your brand? Yes.
It's about compromise, especially if you're not working in sweats and a t-shirt at Facebook or ATRL. |
Um... Let me address this dumbass post.
1. There are V100 vault law firms with equity partners that allow dreadlocks. Vault firms are the highest type of Law firms in America and they have no problem with it and deem it professional. Growing your hair out to an inch does not change how professional you are.
Personal story, I was denied a job at a summer internship at a tier 4 law firm because my hair was 1 inch long (I'm a black male) with the comment stating that I should confirm to the norm for black men in the city and go bald. Bald was the only professional style appropriate. Well guess who now works in a vault firm with a short afro.
Your post is correct in that you do have to give compromise for an career you take. However, there are some compromises so rooted in bigotry that you must fight against them. Now if it were a rule that every male could only look professional bald, I would have taken off my afro and went ahead. But if you are telling me that only my hair texture is professional as bald, you have to think about what that is rooted in.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Dessy Fenix
Yeah unfortunately we must present an image to be successful in certain field. I don't even want to think about being genderqueer or trans in the business environment. At least some areas are leaning toward more personal/creative approaches these days.
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I know a guy in my company that tried to wear makeup to work and he ended up having a huge fight with a VP about it  It's not a problem for me personally but I can see where it becomes an issue for others trying to be themselves
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Originally posted by Airhead
Not a lot of people, just ignorant whites.
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So, as I said, a lot of people
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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But, it's just hair some said.
But in all honesty, it depends on the profession. But there isn't any way in which dreads couldn't be made to look clean and professional, so this law is just ****ing stupid and discriminatory.
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Member Since: 11/28/2011
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Originally posted by karron0624
Um... Let me address this dumbass post.
1. There are V100 vault law firms with equity partners that allow dreadlocks. Vault firms are the highest type of Law firms in America and they have no problem with it and deem it professional. Growing your hair out to an inch does not change how professional you are.
Personal story, I was denied a job at a summer internship at a tier 4 law firm because my hair was 1 inch long (I'm a black male) with the comment stating that I should confirm to the norm for black men in the city and go bald. Bald was the only professional style appropriate. Well guess who now works in a vault firm with a short afro.
Your post is correct in that you do have to give compromise for an career you take. However, there are some compromises so rooted in bigotry that you must fight against them. Now if it were a rule that every male could only look professional bald, I would have taken off my afro and went ahead. But if you are telling me that only my hair texture is professional as bald, you have to think about what that is rooted in.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Hazard
Dyed hair when natural is generally not prohibited.
Crazy and unnatural dye jobs are not permitted for obvious reasons.
A company needs to have a clean, professional, accessible image.
This won't do that:
And miss me with that white privilege rhetoric, OP.
I have never seen a white person in a position of power/authority rocking dreads. |
The entire stupidity of this post just knocked me straight out of my chair. 
Its like some of y'all got out of your way to be so ignorant and offensive.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by OnikaSlays
The woman damaged her hair with either heat, chemicals, or both, but you know anything to please white people! |
As if white people don't use heat, chemicals etc... 
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by WalkAway
As if white people don't use heat, chemicals etc... |
You've missed the point entirely. Or maybe you truly don't understand the comment in relationship to how hair texture plays an important role in how chemicals and heat can damage ones hair. Which is it?
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ATRL Contributor
Member Since: 8/8/2006
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Well this is completely backwards.
I am on SJW'S side this time
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ATRL Contributor
Member Since: 9/14/2010
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Originally posted by karron0624
Um... Let me address this dumbass post.
1. There are V100 vault law firms with equity partners that allow dreadlocks. Vault firms are the highest type of Law firms in America and they have no problem with it and deem it professional. Growing your hair out to an inch does not change how professional you are.
Personal story, I was denied a job at a summer internship at a tier 4 law firm because my hair was 1 inch long (I'm a black male) with the comment stating that I should confirm to the norm for black men in the city and go bald. Bald was the only professional style appropriate. Well guess who now works in a vault firm with a short afro.
Your post is correct in that you do have to give compromise for an career you take. However, there are some compromises so rooted in bigotry that you must fight against them. Now if it were a rule that every male could only look professional bald, I would have taken off my afro and went ahead. But if you are telling me that only my hair texture is professional as bald, you have to think about what that is rooted in.
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Educate it.
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Member Since: 8/1/2012
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Dress code is quite common in companies. My mom works in a bank and they have a very strict dress policy there (black long trousers or skirt and white /not see through/ blouse or a costume) and if women have long hair, they have to tie them in a knot or a ponytail. Men arent allowed to have hair above shoulder lenght...
Its as if these big corporate companies want to erase all the individual traits of their employees.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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this ban is so stupid.
I can only see this being a problem if you work in a food factory or in a lab. Such places that hair might be a problem, so it's needed to be covered for obvious reasons
but when it comes to jobs that require meeting other people, banning a certain look is so backward thinking
as Madonna would say in a song I am ironically listening right now:
"Express yourself, don't repress yourself"
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Gross. They care more about your appearance than your skills, achievements and traits
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Originally posted by sickfalsetto
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Originally posted by Communion
The strawman is comparing things white folks have to go out of their way to do and maintain versus a hairstyle that takes not as much work for black women. Some workplaces don't even allow natural hair texture to be worn by black women.
THIS hair would also be deemed unprofessional:
...and that's the way her hair ****ing grows out of her head.
You want black women to do extra work simply because the natural textures and growth of their hair are deemed unprofessional. Shut up with your racist ****, Christ. |
CLOOOOOOOOOOOCKKKKKKKED
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Originally posted by Bríseis
Dress code is quite common in companies. My mom works in a bank and they have a very strict dress policy there (black long trousers or skirt and white /not see through/ blouse or a costume) and if women have long hair, they have to tie them in a knot or a ponytail. Men arent allowed to have hair above shoulder lenght...
Its as if these big corporate companies want to erase all the individual traits of their employees.
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Member Since: 11/1/2011
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Originally posted by Hazard
Good. Sorry, SJWs, but dreads are not professional. Same with piercings and tattoos.
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Why not?
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