Discussion: Are you still interested in Gaga? - Page 4

Rihlana

Oh yeah, definitely! More than ever, I think.

Mezter

No, she lost her touch in 2011 for me. She was MAGIC from 2008-2010

Typhlosion

HandsOn

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Originally posted by Vespertine

She is still making pop

Statements like this are what make people think Monsters are delusional. Just because she's working with Mark Robson and Kevin Parker doesn't mean it's not pop. The two of them make pop music themselves...

And PI is literally nothing at all like Red and Blue

What sort of "die-hard fan" thinks this is a return to R&B? Mess.

1. Where did I say she wasn't making pop music? Literally what about my statement was delusional?

2. I wasn't talking about PI, I'm clearly talking about the album tracks we've all been discussing since the listening party.

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Originally posted by Vespertine

Gaga/monsters want this new era to be the "real" Gaga, but I feel like all the pomp and circumstance, all the drama student stuff, all the "gimmicks"... that was all the real Gaga to some extent too. It's a shame that she pushed it so hard with ARTPOP that she thinks she has to drop it completely now. Surely there's some happy medium.

Also I really don't think that's true. I think you're just reading what you want to read (like with my comment you quoted). I think everything after TF is "the real her" (which shouldn't be controversial... the entire theme of that record/era was being fake), but she's 30 now. She's different.

Hazard

Yes PI is better than Applause and most of ARTPOP.

Vespertine

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Originally posted by TinkerbellClap

I literally came here to post the exact same words.

This is the real and authentic Gaga in my opinion. It's her first solo album era without a manager telling her to dress weird and giving her one week to plan a whole music video, and you can see that she's doing what she actually WANTS to do.

Good bye, I'm so tired of Monsters saying **** like this.

It's actually really sad that you'd reduce everything she did before to "a manager telling her to dress weird" and not doing what she WANTS to do. I'm sorry, but how can you act like you're a "real" fan when you apparently didn't watch the passion with which Gaga did all of that for years? The passion with which she talked about her outlandish lyrics, her music video treatments, her concepts, etc. In fact, one of her core concepts was that you're always able to invent your identity -- there is no "real" you.

Did that passion always turn out good products? No. But I still think it was authentic to Gaga.

FYI, no manager in the world would've asked Gaga to release the MTN video (one of her best imo), or to produce an entire album dedicated to the idea of putting ART into POP, etc. In fact, Gaga (while wearing a literal trash bag after being puked on the night before at SXSW) spoke at length about how her manager was always telling her to look prettier.

Gaga has directed (and with G.U.Y. and the Monster Ball, even funded) so many of her music videos and tours, and she has always taken pride in being the driving force behind her music.

This era might be about stripping back the Gaga persona, but it's ****ing sad to see Monsters disowning what she did before like it was "fake." If you asked Gaga herself, I know she would still stand behind all of that. There's a reason she has tattoos for each of her eras.

Vespertine

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Originally posted by HandsOn

1. Where did I say she wasn't making pop music? Literally what about my statement was delusional?

2. I wasn't talking about PI, I'm clearly talking about the album tracks we've all been discussing since the listening party.

Also I really don't think that's true. I think you're just reading what you want to read (like with my comment you quoted). I think everything after TF is "the real her" (which shouldn't be controversial... the entire theme of that record/era was being fake), but she's 30 now. She's different.

Your original post literally says "what if I told you some of us have actual faves who don't make pop" and then went on to list Kevin and Mark

I'm not going to bother engaging with you anymore if you're that dense.

Latch

yes.

Lady Gaga was one of the first music artists I fell in love with. I don't always like everything she releases, but whether or not I like a work of art, it's still beautiful. I think she's brilliant and I'll be paying attention to her as long as she's willing share her creativity with the world.

Lover

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Originally posted by Mezter

No, she lost her touch in 2011 for me. She was MAGIC from 2008-2010

t.h.i.s.t.b.h.

at least she's got 2 flawless years.
not everyone has that i guess.

Natawie

I was never interested in GaGa.

HandsOn

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Originally posted by Vespertine

Your original post literally says "what if I told you some of us have actual faves who don't make pop" and then went on to list Kevin and Mark

I'm not going to bother engaging with you anymore if you're that dense.

How am I being dense?

The "faves who don't make pop" were obviously people OTHER than GAGA omg. I said I have faves that don't make pop [full stop] I was excited to hear about her collaborators [full stop] You're the one who decided put 2 and 2 together in a weird and incorrect way, don't get mad at me.

Sakamoto

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Originally posted by Lover

t.h.i.s.t.b.h.

at least she's got 2 flawless years.
not everyone has that i guess.

Sure, I'm positive your not biased in the least !

MissedTheTrain

People saying the "this is the real Gaga", "that was the real Gaga" stuff need to stop for a sec and realize it's all been the ~real Gaga~. We've seen so many sides of her, she likes to evolve and try new things. Sometimes it's more dramatic, other times it's more raw.

prézli

No. Since Bad Romance.