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Single: Lady Gaga - "Perfect Illusion"
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Originally posted by Sharamee6
You forgot to put this in just to make it even more hilarious:
Christina Aguilera Your Body 110K
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He is putting songs released this year. 110k in 2013 (??) is even worse then 91k in 2016. Nice try.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by joe71941
If she drops everything at once how is she going to rebound the following week considering people still don't know about Gaga's comeback since she's not hyping anything this time around (thank god)? The song will gradually become popular once the radio adds kick in and it gains enough airplay. Just don't expect it to become quickly, new releases nowadays take weeks to take off and it's not just Gaga, it's everyone. Into You was released in late spring but it became really popular amongst the GP (me included) in July. Give it time. Time is the ultimate truth teller. All of the big releases this year started slow until they become hits (Work, Cheap Thrills, One Dance, Into You, etc.)
The second week will be even worse in my opinion. But around the third/fourth week when and IF it has enough airplay things will start changing, streams will get bigger, sales stabilising, etc.
You don't need to be #1 on iTunes in order to be #1 on BB. Gaga is Interscope's biggest artist, they want her to succeed, if they didn't like the single and if they didn't believe in it, they wouldn't have released it. Remember, in the end, Gaga is obliged to do whatever they tell her to and if they think that an extremely different song which has no analog on radio right now is the best way to start her new era, then PI wouldn't be released. Don't let some twinks with no logical sense get to you. These people are multi millionaires who get business better than ATRL. The best you can do right now is to enjoy the song, live your life and maybe after three weeks to check its chart run again
Gaga always relied on different sounds, JD and PF were all groundbreaking - literally taking months to take off. BR got an obnoxious review on the RS (2/5 stars) and it took off weeks after its release, the same with Applause which became a stellar hit in late September. The only exception is Born This Way who became a big smash because of her brand at that time. and if it wasn't for her popularity it would have underperformed because it also had no analog on US radio. So, people, take a chill pill and prepare for an even worse second week because things will start changing in late September.
I can't believe I spent so much time explaining how things work but I am honestly tired of people dragging this amazing song which includes no autotune and real instruments just because it "flopped". Would you like the song better if it still was #1?  Don't answer me, think about it. |
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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Originally posted by LadyGagaStan93
Why am I actually okay with her doing lower than make me? Something is seriously wrong with me 
Bigger picture guys bigger picture. |
I'm ok with her flopping too. Maybe she'll stop embarassing herself.
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Member Since: 12/7/2011
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Originally posted by joe71941
If she drops everything at once how is she going to rebound the following week considering people still don't know about Gaga's comeback since she's not hyping anything this time around (thank god)? The song will gradually become popular once the radio adds kick in and it gains enough airplay. Just don't expect it to become quickly, new releases nowadays take weeks to take off and it's not just Gaga, it's everyone. Into You was released in late spring but it became really popular amongst the GP (me included) in July. Give it time. Time is the ultimate truth teller. All of the big releases this year started slow until they become hits (Work, Cheap Thrills, One Dance, Into You, etc.)
The second week will be even worse in my opinion. But around the third/fourth week when and IF it has enough airplay things will start changing, streams will get bigger, sales stabilising, etc.
You don't need to be #1 on iTunes in order to be #1 on BB. Gaga is Interscope's biggest artist, they want her to succeed, if they didn't like the single and if they didn't believe in it, they wouldn't have released it. Remember, in the end, Gaga is obliged to do whatever they tell her to and if they think that an extremely different song which has no analog on radio right now is the best way to start her new era, then PI wouldn't be released. Don't let some twinks with no logical sense get to you. These people are multi millionaires who get business better than ATRL. The best you can do right now is to enjoy the song, live your life and maybe after three weeks to check its chart run again
Gaga always relied on different sounds, JD and PF were all groundbreaking - literally taking months to take off. BR got an obnoxious review on the RS (2/5 stars) and it took off weeks after its release, the same with Applause which became a stellar hit in late September. The only exception is Born This Way who became a big smash because of her brand at that time. and if it wasn't for her popularity it would have underperformed because it also had no analog on US radio. So, people, take a chill pill and prepare for an even worse second week because things will start changing in late September.
I can't believe I spent so much time explaining how things work but I am honestly tired of people dragging this amazing song which includes no autotune and real instruments just because it "flopped". Would you like the song better if it still was #1? Don't answer me, think about it. |
The truth!
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I want to see the video as soon as possible, but still I want them to put it out when song starts to flop on the radio.
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Member Since: 5/13/2009
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Originally posted by IBeMe
He is putting songs released this year. 110k in 2013 (??) is even worse then 91k in 2016. Nice try.
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Not really. Digitally, big artists sell as much as they used to 5 years ago if it's a hit so yeah, nice try. #SomeonesInDenial
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by joe71941
If she drops everything at once how is she going to rebound the following week considering people still don't know about Gaga's comeback since she's not hyping anything this time around (thank god)? The song will gradually become popular once the radio adds kick in and it gains enough airplay. Just don't expect it to become quickly, new releases nowadays take weeks to take off and it's not just Gaga, it's everyone. Into You was released in late spring but it became really popular amongst the GP (me included) in July. Give it time. Time is the ultimate truth teller. All of the big releases this year started slow until they become hits (Work, Cheap Thrills, One Dance, Into You, etc.)
The second week will be even worse in my opinion. But around the third/fourth week when and IF it has enough airplay things will start changing, streams will get bigger, sales stabilising, etc.
You don't need to be #1 on iTunes in order to be #1 on BB. Gaga is Interscope's biggest artist, they want her to succeed, if they didn't like the single and if they didn't believe in it, they wouldn't have released it. Remember, in the end, Gaga is obliged to do whatever they tell her to and if they think that an extremely different song which has no analog on radio right now is the best way to start her new era, then PI wouldn't be released. Don't let some twinks with no logical sense get to you. These people are multi millionaires who get business better than ATRL. The best you can do right now is to enjoy the song, live your life and maybe after three weeks to check its chart run again
Gaga always relied on different sounds, JD and PF were all groundbreaking - literally taking months to take off. BR got an obnoxious review on the RS (2/5 stars) and it took off weeks after its release, the same with Applause which became a stellar hit in late September. The only exception is Born This Way who became a big smash because of her brand at that time. and if it wasn't for her popularity it would have underperformed because it also had no analog on US radio. So, people, take a chill pill and prepare for an even worse second week because things will start changing in late September.
I can't believe I spent so much time explaining how things work but I am honestly tired of people dragging this amazing song which includes no autotune and real instruments just because it "flopped". Would you like the song better if it still was #1? Don't answer me, think about it. |
"The second week will be even worse in my opinion." true, I need to prepare for lashings that will come with another freefal due to her losing banners and hot tracks thing
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She just needs to promote her material, which she undoubtedly will. No reason to excessively shove the song down people's throat. Overexposure was what destroyed her image a few years ago. I.e. Gimmicky, over the top, pretentious & high art word vomit, etc,.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by careerfatality
why dont you wait until she does some promo
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it's lowkey too late... 
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Originally posted by Pill
it's lowkey too late... |
 Yeah, three days. Too late.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Sharamee6
Not really. Digitally, big artists sell as much as they used to 5 years ago if it's a hit so yeah, nice try.
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This is an absolutely ridiculous post. Go check itunes sales in 2013 and 2016. Even the biggest artists of 2016 are not selling the same way they used to in 2013. So once again, nice try 
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Member Since: 12/7/2011
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Originally posted by Hurem
I want to see the video as soon as possible, but still I want them to put it out when song starts to flop on the radio.
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Me too, i can't wait to slay us!  But i think that she can't flop that soon on the radio... 
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Member Since: 5/13/2009
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Originally posted by IBeMe
This is an absolutely ridiculous post. Go check itunes sales in 2013 and 2016. Even the biggest artists of 2016 are not selling the same way they used to in 2013. So once again, nice try |
You're obviously in denial. It's ok. Life goes on. Argument ends here. *pats your back*
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Member Since: 7/15/2012
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Originally posted by Chaos Angel
Beyoncé Formation 174,000
Katy Perry Rise 137,000
Rihanna Work(2 days) 126,000
Beyoncé Hold Up 123,000
Ariana Grande Dangeorus Woman 118,000
Beyoncé Sorry 118,000
Meghan Trainor NO 113,000
Beyoncé 6 Inch 99,000
Britney Spears Make Me… 96,000
Lady Gaga Perfect Illusion 91,000
Fifth Harmony Work from Home 88,000
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Where is the spotify update?
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Sharamee6
You're obviously in denial. It's ok. Life goes on. Argument ends here. *pats your back*
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No you're in denial. I know Perfect Illusion is doing tragically but you cannot sit here and say artists that are big digital sellers still sell the same as they did in 2013 when the facts all go against that. Maybe you haven't read on how the digital sales climate is changing. It's fine. Argument ends when I say so and I say it ends now *pats your back*
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ATRL Contributor
Member Since: 12/7/2008
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Originally posted by Sharamee6
You're obviously in denial. It's ok. Life goes on. Argument ends here. *pats your back*
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Only Adele did. The rest didnt.
Andy Cohen and Elvis Duran tomorrow?  Wonder if theres more as the week goes by.
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Member Since: 9/14/2010
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Originally posted by TodorGadjalovFan
Where is the spotify update?
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Link to the thread where you can discuss Spotify: http://atrl.net/642758 - make a request for someone to check.
Edit: How nice - see, Monsters are friendly. Torturo posted it for you despite your disgusting signature
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Originally posted by Torturo
Midday?
It's at 5,354,972 atm, so 1,752,871 streams so far for today, that's already better than yesterday
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by TodorGadjalovFan
Where is the spotify update?
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Midday?
It's at 5,354,972 atm, so 1,752,871 streams so far for today, that's already better than yesterday
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Member Since: 8/7/2012
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Originally posted by FENTY
BLESS YOU.
I enjoyed reading your post so much, it's restored all my faith, I guess the amount of negativity on ATRL + Twitter just tends to dawn on you... it sucks.  |
No problem, I get your frustration because I used to care about Gaga's commercial success during the ARTPOP era and in a way I'm glad things turned out the way they did because if it weren't for ARTPOP's bad critical and commercial reception she would still be asking her fans what songs she should do and also sharing her creative process with them so she could earn their approval. (NOTE: DON'T EVER TRUST POP STANS WHO STAN FOR AN ARTIST'S SUCCESS AND NOT FOR THE ARTIST HIMSELF - this thread is full of such people) Because in the end if it weren't for people like them who told Gaga what trend she should follow she wouldn't have had a breakdown. Lke fav like stan, I guess, but she changed dramatically and they didn't. They don't like her new music after ARTPOP not because it sucks (ARTPOP is not good for Gaga's standards but it is for others' ones) but because they associate it with commercial setbacks. This is how shallow they are, extremely mercantile and obsessed with others' success because they are unable to achieve that. I mean, if you are so smart and if you know so many things about business and people's interests, how come you are posting on an internet forum and not enjoying your rich beautiful life in a mansion in Malibu? Just my five cents.
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