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Poll: Whitney vs Celine : More global at their peak?
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View Poll Results: More global peak
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Whitney
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Celine
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Originally posted by Tutankhamun
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OT: Single album peak is obv Whitney, but Celine's back-to-back 30M-sellers is unprecedented for a female act.
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My Heart Will Go On alone >
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Whitney has the bigger peak, Celine has the longevity (for obvious reasons).
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Whitney had the biggest female peak ever with The Bodyguard...
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Originally posted by OffTheWall
Isn't the Bodyguard album labeled as "Various Artists"? Not Whitney Houston.
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Most label it at as "Whitney Houston/Various Artists" or just "Whitney Houston." Itunes labels it as "Various Artists."
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Originally posted by Squall
Her debut album is estimated at 24 million, not 30 million. Plus, The Bodyguard is not her album.  |
Actually, 25 million. I overestimated. Still a huge album, which was the point of my post. The Bodyguard is HER album. Don't be sorry, just be right next time.
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Originally posted by Squall
Céline has two consecutive 30 million sellers. They sold less than Whitney's debut in the US and yet, they sold 6 million more in total. I guess the answer is pretty clear.
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Whitney was still more global at her peak. Not only did she have the best-selling female album and soundtrack out, but she was star of the second highest grossing film of that year and embarked on one of the biggest tours of that year, which touched on 5 continents. Her reach was broader during her peak than Celine's. I Will Always Love You is also the best-selling female single ever. That song alone is more global than any single Celine released at her peak.
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Originally posted by C.Damen
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25 million. Still a huge album.
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Originally posted by C.Damen
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20 million. Still a huge album.
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Originally posted by C.Damen
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No, 10 million.
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Originally posted by C.Damen
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And NARAS states that if an artist or producer performs at least half of the recordings, then it's their album. Which is why they awarded Album of the Year to her and the producers and not the other artists. RIAA and Billboard also acknowledges it as a Whitney album. If The Bodyguard isn't Whitney's album then Saturday Night Fever isn't The BeeGees' album.
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Originally posted by OffTheWall
Celine.
Whitney was local. (except for The Bodyguard which isn't her album)
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You have to stop priding yourself on being so willfully ignorant. The RIAA recognizes TBG as a Whitney Houston album.
RIAA > you.
And so does the Grammys, the AMAs, the BMAs, and practically every trophy awarding body across the globe
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Originally posted by Evolution
Celine.
Whitney was local to the English speaking world.
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Studio Albums
1985 Whitney Houston – 210,000
1987 Whitney – 360,000
1990 I’m Your Baby Tonight – 440,000
1998 My Love Is Your Love – 695,000
2002 Just Whitney – 60,000
2003 One Wish: The Holiday Album – 5,000
2009 I Look To You – 60,000
Soundtrack Albums
1992 The Bodyguard – 1,720,000
1995 Waiting To Exhale – 70,000
1996 The Preacher’s Wife – 70,000
Compilation Albums
2000 The Greatest Hits – 610,000
2001 Love, Whitney – 65,000
2007 The Ultimate Collection – 140,000
2011 The Essential Whitney Houston – 30,000
2012 I Will Always Love You: The Best of Whitney Houston – 20,000
2014 Whitney Houston Live: Her Greatest Performances – 5,000
Whitney Houston sold a total of 4,560,000 albums in France.
http://chartmasters.org/2016/04/fran...ey-houston/10/
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Whitney Houston
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Japon : 1.000.000
Europe : 4.970.000
- UK : 1.400.000
- France : 200.000
- Allemagne : 1.100.000
- Italie : 600.000
- Espagne : 100.000
- Suède : 300.000
- Pays-Bas : 250.000
- Suisse : 100.000
- Autriche : 60.000
- Finlande : 30.000
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Whitney
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Japon : 700.000
Europe : 7.480.000
- UK : 2.450.000
- France : 500.000
- Allemagne : 1.400.000
- Italie : 600.000
- Espagne : 250.000
- Suède : 300.000
- Pays-Bas : 400.000
- Suisse : 140.000
- Autriche : 130.000
- Finlande : 60.000
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I'm Your Baby Tonight
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Japon : 500.000
Europe : 3.420.000
- UK : 800.000
- France : 425.000
- Allemagne : 600.000
- Italie : 200.000
- Espagne : 250.000
- Suède : 150.000
- Pays-Bas : 200.000
- Suisse : 110.000
- Autriche : 75.000
- Finlande : 38.000
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TBG
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Mexique : 600.000
Argentine : 320.000
Brésil : 775.000
Australie : 450.000
Japon : 2.850.000
Corée du Sud : 1.200.000
Taiwan : 400.000
Indonésie : 400.000
Afrique Du Sud : 225.000
Europe : 10.490.000
- UK : 2.600.000
- France : 1.300.000
- Allemagne : 1.750.000
- Italie : 1.000.000
- Espagne : 700.000
- Suède : 425.000
- Pays-Bas : 400.000
- Suisse : 300.000
- Autriche : 210.000
- Finlande : 60.000
- Norvège : 160.000
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http://www.chartsinfrance.net/commun...36#entry467293
You have to stop being ignorant. The information is just a click away.
And Celine was local to the French Canadian world, and her albums did next to nothing outside of that market. Also note her 80s releases were regularly outsold by Whitney's albums in each non-English market.
The Bodyguard is by far a more global album than Falling Into You and Let's Talk About Love.
Whitney was more global. She had hits across the globe, and at her peak, she toured North America, South America, Europe, Africa, Asia, and Oceania. We can not say the same for Celine.
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Originally posted by IMPACTNET.
Actually, 25 million. I overestimated. Still a huge album, which was the point of my post.
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Hmmm it's interesting you overestimated it at this exact time.
I have another source that has a different number.
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25 million. Still a huge album.
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When did I say it wasn't a huge album?
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20 million. Still a huge album.
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When did I claim it was not a huge album? Please show.
Right. Roughly 10 million. Saying it sold 10 million and roughly 10 million is basically the same thing.
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And NARAS states that if an artist or producer performs at least half of the recordings, then it's their album. Which is why they awarded Album of the Year to her and the producers and not the other artists. RIAA and Billboard also acknowledges it as a Whitney album. If The Bodyguard isn't Whitney's album then Saturday Night Fever isn't The BeeGees' album.
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But Sound Scan does not agree with you in saying The Bodyguard is a Whitney Houston studio album. Sound Scan considers The Bodyguard as a soundtrack.
What Whitney Houston studio album has sold 30 million?
Even her certificate says Original Soundtrack Album.
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Originally posted by fememeist
Whitney
Celine was exclusive to Canada and france |
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Where can I find The Bodyguard's chart runs from 2000 and on?
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It's obviously Celine
She sold more WW than Whitney in her career and I'm sorry but Whitney's never had a tour as big or as global as the Taking Chances tour.
I'm from the caribbean and she's a force there. Her songs are known and loved. Even the french african countries stan her.
The Bodyguard was obviously a bigger peak but we're in 2016 and she's still debuting with over 200K WW.
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Originally posted by daking17
It's obviously Celine
She sold more WW than Whitney in her career and I'm sorry but Whitney's never had a tour as big or as global as the Taking Chances tour.
I'm from the caribbean and she's a force there. Her songs are known and loved. Even the french african countries stan her.
The Bodyguard was obviously a bigger peak but we're in 2016 and she's still debuting with over 200K WW.
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"Whitney vs Celine : More global at their peak?"
Gosh. Where is the comprehension skill.
Whitney was a true SUPERSTAR in 1992. She was present in media, was a successful actress and singer, had the biggest female song of all time in one year. Celine is just a very successful songstress. It's like saying Adele's peak is higher than Britney's.
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Originally posted by Tutankhamun
"Whitney vs Celine : More global at their peak?"
Gosh. Where is the comprehension skill.
Whitney was a true SUPERSTAR in 1992. She was present in media, was a successful actress and singer, had the biggest female song of all time in one year. Celine is just a very successful songstress. It's like saying Adele's peak is higher than Britney's.
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Adele's peak is higher than Britney's.
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Originally posted by family.guy123
Adele's peak is higher than Britney's.
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I mean .. 
Stop discussing with facts. Celine >
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Stop discussing with facts. Celine > |
Commercial wise, she was.
OT: peakwise, if Bodygueard really IS seen as a 100% Whitney album, she wins.
but Celine in 1997 was really close tho, and she also wins the long run
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Celine has always been more global.
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Originally posted by IMPACTNET.
Whitney was still more global at her peak. Not only did she have the best-selling female album and soundtrack out, but she was star of the second highest grossing film of that year and embarked on one of the biggest tours of that year, which touched on 5 continents. Her reach was broader during her peak than Celine's. I Will Always Love You is also the best-selling female single ever. That song alone is more global than any single Celine released at her peak.
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According to her biggest selling album, her debut one, she didn't. The Bodyguard is not a Whitney album.
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13 million (US)
24 million (WW)
Falling Into You:
11 million (US)
30 million (WW)
Let's Talk About Love:
10 million (US)
30 million (WW)
Whitney: more than the half oh her total comes from the US
Céline: about one third of her total sales comes from the US
MHWGO was on two albums, both of them sold 30 million+ WW.
I really don't get your logic when in TWO YEARS, Céline sold more than 60 million albums (90 with the Titanic Soundtrack even though it's not her album). How can a peak be bigger than that? 
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Originally posted by Mr. Wonder
You have to stop being ignorant. The information is just a click away.
And Celine was local to the French Canadian world, and her albums did next to nothing outside of that market. Also note her 80s releases were regularly outsold by Whitney's albums in each non-English market.
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That's why she has WAY MORE impressive certifications all around the world I guess? 
"next to nothing" 
Whitney Houston
Falling Into You
Let's Talk About Love
Not alone the certifications are way higher for Céline but moreover she has way more. Isn't it obvious at this point?
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