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Discussion: ATRL's Pros and Cons - Rihanna
Member Since: 3/30/2009
Posts: 79,408
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Originally posted by love100
pros: 1999-2001
cons: 2002-now
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Why are cons since 2002?
She released "In The Zone" in 2003 and gave us the best all-time video and one of the best songs ever, "Toxic".
The only cons should be 2006-2007, the rest is perfection. 
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Member Since: 3/30/2009
Posts: 79,408
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Originally posted by hungry4xtina
pros: she can count to 3
cons: overrated, dumb, redneck, bad mother, cant sing for ****, cant dance anymore, doesnt really care about her music, a puppet, uses shock value/media to sell herself
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We're not doing Christina.
And you got Xtina wrong, she's not a puppet really, more like a clown. 
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Member Since: 6/28/2009
Posts: 6,960
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Pros: Good dance music, nice personality
Cons: Puppet, lazy performer
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Member Since: 10/30/2009
Posts: 2,811
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pro: she's kinda cute and has a nice voice for pop, she has that 'it' factor for being a super star.
con: sometimes she seems to be a bit empty-headed.. i dunno.. or she looks lost in life or something.
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ATRL Administrator
Member Since: 6/29/2002
Posts: 77,601
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Pros: very unique and distinct tone perfect for pop music, she has a bunch of awesome songs, she's a hard worker and has a fascinating personal life
Cons: useless in concert
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Member Since: 10/3/2009
Posts: 35,844
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Originally posted by Duca
Why are cons since 2002?
She released "In The Zone" in 2003 and gave us the best all-time video and one of the best songs ever, "Toxic".
The only cons should be 2006-2007, the rest is perfection. 
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It's not your opinion , it's love100 opinnion 
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Member Since: 8/12/2007
Posts: 15,237
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Pros: Catchy songs
Cons: Her personal life and her singing/dancing skills.
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Member Since: 11/2/2009
Posts: 19,838
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Pros: Nice girl, dancing, ok singer
Cons: Lazy, personal life
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Member Since: 4/20/2009
Posts: 1,073
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Pros: personality, always delivers with hot tracks, memorable, it factor
Cons: isn't delivering live, weave
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Member Since: 2/6/2010
Posts: 27,892
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Pros: Catchy songs, okay management. Good dance moves in music videos, always relevant in the industry (number one hit off of a GREATEST HITS album haha!!!!)
Cons: Live Performances SUCKK. Personal Life in the past couple of years (Even though she has progressed remarkably).
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Member Since: 12/31/2009
Posts: 3,465
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*Removes Hoop Earrings*
...I'm going IN.
Pros: Seems like a genuinely nice person. Had a few great hits, pop classics. Once upon a time, was a great performer. Once had a care-free personality, but now she just -- well I'll save that for the cons..
Cons: *Takes a seat* -- She simply cannot sing, she can't dance anymore, she just isn't relatable anymore, and just doesn't deserve the hype. Her stans are simply delusional. Example: they see a picture of her looking like she hasn't slept for the past week, and they say:
"OMG,  " -- 
,they seem to have lost touch with reality in a sense. I don't get the feeling from her that she actually cares about what she does. She isn't driven, lacks work ethic, etc. She relies on her tabloid hype and coverage to remain relevant whereas her most recent material is simply lacking. Her live performances are awful, although considering the fact that those that go to her concerts(excluding australians) are die-hard fans, they don't seem to value a great live show. She half-asses during her concerts, and frankly rips off her fans. She is contrived in every sense of the word. In my opinion she was crafted by record executives from her image, to what she does, and she has little say in her music choices. All of her songs frankly sound the same, with infectious beats that leave a stupid rhyme stuck in your head. In an era in music where live performances are becoming more important, I simply don't think she'll thrive in that market in the future if she keeps going at it the way she is now. Thought you were going to get away with the things you Brit stans said about my girl? Think again.
Did I mention her stans are horrible? I'll add more as they come to mind in the near future.  Thanks for your time. :heart:
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ATRL Contributor
Member Since: 6/17/2009
Posts: 7,828
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^Looks like somebody needs to take a break and get some fresh air..
OK:
Pros - Carefree spirit & personality, some pop classics, nice smile.
Cons - Rips her fans off with below standard performances & her fashion sense.
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Member Since: 4/9/2009
Posts: 300
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Pros: Pop icon. Great entertainer, hard worker, versatile voice, great personality & an infectious smile, always a topic of interest, she doesn't try to be something she's not & doesn't diss other artists. Awesome music. Personable & likeable.
Cons: Lack of creative input (& when she does have her say, it's usually her best work). She's over-worked herself & tried to be a people pleaser all her life, she's kinda sick of it now. Not driven, motivated. Outspoken & sometimes, a puppet. Her crappy label & manager are still living in the 00's. Lack of fan interaction.
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ATRL Contributor
Member Since: 8/8/2006
Posts: 42,086
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Pros: Pop masterpieces, Blackout, nice person, 1999-2004 amazing perfomances
Cons: She doesn't seem interested in her music anymore 
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Member Since: 7/15/2007
Posts: 3,364
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Originally posted by MissTina
*Removes Hoop Earrings*
...I'm going IN.
Pros: Seems like a genuinely nice person. Had a few great hits, pop classics. Once upon a time, was a great performer. Once had a care-free personality, but now she just -- well I'll save that for the cons..
Cons: *Takes a seat* -- She simply cannot sing, she can't dance anymore, she just isn't relatable anymore, and just doesn't deserve the hype. Her stans are simply delusional. Example: they see a picture of her looking like she hasn't slept for the past week, and they say:
"OMG,  " -- 
,they seem to have lost touch with reality in a sense. I don't get the feeling from her that she actually cares about what she does. She isn't driven, lacks work ethic, etc. She relies on her tabloid hype and coverage to remain relevant whereas her most recent material is simply lacking. Her live performances are awful, although considering the fact that those that go to her concerts(excluding australians) are die-hard fans, they don't seem to value a great live show. She half-asses during her concerts, and frankly rips off her fans. She is contrived in every sense of the word. In my opinion she was crafted by record executives from her image, to what she does, and she has little say in her music choices. All of her songs frankly sound the same, with infectious beats that leave a stupid rhyme stuck in your head. In an era in music where live performances are becoming more important, I simply don't think she'll thrive in that market in the future if she keeps going at it the way she is now. Thought you were going to get away with the things you Brit stans said about my girl? Think again.
Did I mention her stans are horrible? I'll add more as they come to mind in the near future.  Thanks for your time. :heart:
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I couldn't say it better 
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Member Since: 8/8/2009
Posts: 5,072
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Member Since: 6/22/2009
Posts: 1,372
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PROS:: Great Singles ( Toxix, BOMT, OIDIA SFU etc.. ), Dancing Skills. I love her debut era the most. When Britney released BOMT, people all over the world was worshipping her. She's the Most Successfull Female artists among her contemporaries ( Bey, Xtina, Shakira, LAdy Gaga etc) , no question. Multiple Guiness Record Holder, Best Selling Female Artist of the Decade, the only Female Artist who got the distinction of Forbes No. 1 Most Powerful Celebrity in the World, Epic Music Videos, Great Personality,
CONS: Her lack of Passion, miming, Blackout Era ( when most of her fans abandoned her because of her craziness, 2005 -2007)
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Member Since: 10/27/2007
Posts: 7,915
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Quote:
Originally posted by MissTina
*Removes Hoop Earrings*
...I'm going IN.
Pros: Seems like a genuinely nice person. Had a few great hits, pop classics. Once upon a time, was a great performer. Once had a care-free personality, but now she just -- well I'll save that for the cons..
Cons: *Takes a seat* -- She simply cannot sing, she can't dance anymore, she just isn't relatable anymore, and just doesn't deserve the hype. Her stans are simply delusional. Example: they see a picture of her looking like she hasn't slept for the past week, and they say:
"OMG,  " -- 
,they seem to have lost touch with reality in a sense. I don't get the feeling from her that she actually cares about what she does. She isn't driven, lacks work ethic, etc. She relies on her tabloid hype and coverage to remain relevant whereas her most recent material is simply lacking. Her live performances are awful, although considering the fact that those that go to her concerts(excluding australians) are die-hard fans, they don't seem to value a great live show. She half-asses during her concerts, and frankly rips off her fans. She is contrived in every sense of the word. In my opinion she was crafted by record executives from her image, to what she does, and she has little say in her music choices. All of her songs frankly sound the same, with infectious beats that leave a stupid rhyme stuck in your head. In an era in music where live performances are becoming more important, I simply don't think she'll thrive in that market in the future if she keeps going at it the way she is now. Thought you were going to get away with the things you Brit stans said about my girl? Think again.
Did I mention her stans are horrible? I'll add more as they come to mind in the near future.  Thanks for your time. :heart:
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 Mama Tina!!!
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Member Since: 4/9/2009
Posts: 300
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Originally posted by Mr. Yoso
CONS: Her lack of Passion, miming, Blackout Era ( when most of her fans abandoned her because of her craziness, 2005 -2007)
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Actually, the Blackout era saw her garner more fans than any previous era's due the pop-masterpiece that is Blackout.
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Member Since: 3/30/2009
Posts: 79,408
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Quote:
Originally posted by BoomBoomBee
Actually, the Blackout era saw her garner more fans than any previous era's due the pop-masterpiece that is Blackout.
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