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Originally posted by Radiance
They can't get change if they stick with Corbyn's 80/90's Marxist-Trotskyist socialism. He's the one killing the party. They need some sort of triangulation to win back moderate voters and most importantly, the middle class. They've spilled support to the SNP in Scotland (irreversibly) and LibDem in UK. The only ones going to UKIP were not part of their voter base to begin with.
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nnn I hate how people simply revert back to the 1980s whenever socialism is discussed. The election with Michael Foot (Labour's most socialist platform in modern history) was far more complex than Labour simply losing because of socialism. Thatcher had just benefited enormously because of the Falklands War, and in fact, Foot was leading and was strong a year or so before the election. Democratic socialism existed before then, after then, and as an economic and social model, is not extreme. Nothing Jeremy Corbyn suggests is really radical (okay, maybe his foreign policy is a bit off), and are things that a lot of Scandinavian countries have in place already.
They've spilled hardly any support to the Lib Dems. The Lib Dems are dead and most of their support in 2015 came from Northern Scotland (places the Lib Dems already held), or Southern England (which they lost to the Conservatives)
A lot of people did swing from Labour to UKIP. This is a fact. In the election in 2015, a lot of northern, traditional Labour mining towns or cities saw their Labour vote drop, and the UKIP vote rise. Labour still won, but the UKIP threat was there. Labour is meant to be seen as the working class,party. Clue is in the same. And they've lost to UKIP. Working class people are supportive of Brexit. Labour is not. Hence why Labour lost a lot of their support.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...re-immigration
http://survation.com/how-did-ukips-r...eats-position/
