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Discussion: As whites, do you feel you need to speak up on BLM?
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Originally posted by DitaBoy12
BML is ****! How do you expect to be treated as an equal when you don't treat yourselves as equals. Look at all the Black on black violence? What is BLM doing about that? White people owe NOTHING to blacks, and instead of rioting, blaming others and protesting in the defence of THUGS and criminals they should look at their own communities and fix what's wrong. Stop using the race card and have some responsibility.
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let me PM Artemisia
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Originally posted by C.Damen
Absolutely not.
After that stunt that they pulled in Milwaukee, I was officially over with supporting BLM. |
So..a few people who in your mind radicalized and exploited an event unfairly, literally gave you the set mindset that police brutality among -innocent- black men/women and ridiculously vile death outcomes by profiling of those in between the spectrum (thanks @LoKoPaNdA for checking me bro  ) that their lives just don't matter? they good, right? you won't even open your lips to say that it is wrong? you are actually a person that is okay with what's going on?
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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yes, i try to educate the ignorant and check the racist (who have already hopped into this thread). it's important not to speak over POC on these issues though so i try to be mindful of that.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by teresaguidice
yes, i try to educate the ignorant and check the racist. it's important not to speak over POC on these issues though so i try to be mindful of that.
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Yeah.
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Originally posted by DitaBoy12
BML is ****! How do you expect to be treated as an equal when you don't treat yourselves as equals. Look at all the Black on black violence? What is BLM doing about that? White people owe NOTHING to blacks, and instead of rioting, blaming others and protesting in the defence of THUGS and criminals they should look at their own communities and fix what's wrong. Stop using the race card and have some responsibility.
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 all of this when you could've just said you hate black people
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by DitaBoy12
BML is ****! How do you expect to be treated as an equal when you don't treat yourselves as equals. Look at all the Black on black violence? What is BLM doing about that? White people owe NOTHING to blacks, and instead of rioting, blaming others and protesting in the defence of THUGS and criminals they should look at their own communities and fix what's wrong. Stop using the race card and have some responsibility.
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White people (of today) owe nothing to anybody. However, black people, muslim people, native american people, exc. are ALL still suffering from the power they have had throughout our country's history. Nobody is pointing a gun to white people's heads telling them "YOU OWE US!! YOU NEED TO DEVOTE YOUR EVERY BREATH TO WHATEVER WE WANT" BLM was started to raise awareness on police brutality amongst black people, something that EVERY race can support.
Black on black crime has NOTHING to do with racists/ill-trained cops patrolling predominately black areas. Cause we can talk about white on white crime as well so don't come with that ******** of stuff that has nothing to do with BLM.
You just generalized black people as "criminals" and "thugs". YOU need to stop pulling the black card and have some responsibility for your racism.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Woo
Yes
a lot of white people aren't affected by racism in their own personal lives, and they hardly see it in person, so they become indifferent to it, so I try to defend it when i can
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Originally posted by DoubleDutchess
Yes. Educate your friends and family.
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Originally posted by teresaguidice
yes, i try to educate the ignorant and check the racist (who have already hopped into this thread). it's important not to speak over POC on these issues though so i try to be mindful of that.
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Where do ya'll find it most frequent and what do you think needs to change?
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Originally posted by that G.U.Y.
I'm not white, but my opinion is that white people should be able to express their white pride and let black lives matter grow organically as a black group.
White people feel disenfranchised too. Of course there is the history of white supremecy but I honestly think white people have learned from history and just want to live and be happy without destroying other peoples. If white people were allowed to organize in white only organizations I think they would care less about hating other races and find happiness I their own culture.
Basically once white people handle their business they won't have the head space for racism, ie their racism is a product of suffering in their own lives.
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Your post reminds me of an episode of "Chelsea Does" where, correct me if i'm wrong, she interviewed a white guy who thought the solution to race was to form some type of committee only for white people so that they can be excluded from the communities of color. Respectfully disagreeing, It just seems like those solutions would exclude and not solve any real problem.
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I'm so conflicted on this subject honestly. On the one hand, I do totally want to speak up on racial inequalities, but then I see a LOT of POC get angry when non-POC speak up on them because they think (and are perhaps correct in thinking) that we overshadow them, the people who are actually oppressed. Yet, at the same time, it's looked down upon (and I think rightfully so) to just ignore instances of racial inequality. You see the conflict there? I know a lot of people pull this whole "damned if you do, damned if you don't" card to try to discredit the movement but I'm truly just very confused and don't know how to proceed so I usually just stay silent and in my lane (but think these situations thoroughly through and not just ignore them in my head). I get that every person has their own thoughts on this but it seems like these two ideologies just clash so hard and I never know which to expect any person I don't know to lean towards so I think it's best to keep my mouth shut.  But then I feel like a racist for being outwardly neutral on the subject. I feel like I'm gonna regret posting this and that people are just gonna drag me for saying all this with the usual "oh you poor white, you have it so hard" but I'm honestly not trying to say that or imply that this issue is hard for me because I'm not the one it's hard for. I just don't know what to do. 
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should other races like asians , indians also feel the same?
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Originally posted by bleuwaffle
I recognize that BLM is fighting for legitimate racial injustice, but the way they're going about it is regressive.
I'm not white though.
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that... wasn't the question
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by DitaBoy12
BML is ****! How do you expect to be treated as an equal when you don't treat yourselves as equals. Look at all the Black on black violence? What is BLM doing about that? White people owe NOTHING to blacks, and instead of rioting, blaming others and protesting in the defence of THUGS and criminals they should look at their own communities and fix what's wrong. Stop using the race card and have some responsibility.
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Wow. You really think it's that simple. Poor ignorant soul!
How can black communities grow and "fix" themselves when police officers are executing young men in the street? Explain that away, Mr. Know It All
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Originally posted by blaggot
all of this when you could've just said you hate black people |
I don't hate black people but I do hate stupid people like you and the whole BLM nonsense. Nice try tho
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Originally posted by that G.U.Y.
Wow. You really think it's that simple. Poor ignorant soul!
How can black communities grow and "fix" themselves when police officers are executing young men in the street? Explain that away, Mr. Know It All
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THUGS!! say it that is what those that were killed were, up to nothing good thugs and i would say the same if they were white or any other race. Resist arrest and act like an animal and you get what you deserve yes it is as simple as that.
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Every race should support BLM. I'm really not sure why so many people generalize a race and say "they" or "them", when there are SO MANY PEOPLE of that race. When people use words like "they" and "them" it just fuels the feeling that we're different. We're all human, and it's not fair that any of us get treated differently in a negative way because of our skin, hair, bodies, or any other aspects of *us* that we cannot control, of any race. A lot of this happens to people that are black, and it's something that all of us need to make an effort to stop. Please do not generalize a whole race just because of some people. What some people of a race do does NOT represent the entire race. No one knows for sure what it will take to end racism, but if it's Black Lives Matters, that's what we should be supporting.
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Originally posted by AlphaOmega
Where do ya'll find it most frequent and what do you think needs to change?
Your post reminds me of an episode of "Chelsea Does" where, correct me if i'm wrong, she interviewed a white guy who thought the solution to race was to form some type of committee only for white people so that they can be excluded from the communities of color. Respectfully disagreeing, It just seems like those solutions would exclude and not solve any real problem.
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You're right. They truly are incapable of empathy. Just last month here in Texas a white kid was shot by the police and NO white people bothered to protest. They don't even care about their own; they won't care about BLM.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by AlphaOmega
Where do ya'll find it most frequent and what do you think needs to change?
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In the movement? I really don't know. 
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Originally posted by DitaBoy12
THUGS!! say it that is what those that were killed were, up to nothing good thugs and i would say the same if they were white or any other race. Resist arrest and act like an animal and you get what you deserve yes it is as simple as that.
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So was Trayvon Martin a thug then? Was Tamir Rice a thug?
Stupid piece of ****.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by TheNight
I'm so conflicted on this subject honestly. On the one hand, I do totally want to speak up on racial inequalities, but then I see a LOT of POC get angry when non-POC speak up on them because they think (and are perhaps correct in thinking) that we overshadow them, the people who are actually oppressed. Yet, at the same time, it's looked down upon (and I think rightfully so) to just ignore instances of racial inequality. You see the conflict there? I know a lot of people truly just very confused and don't know how to proceed so I usually just stay silent and in my lane (but think these situations thoroughly through and not just ignore them in my head). I get that every person has their own thoughts on this but it seems like these two ideologies just clash so hard and I never know which to expect any person I don't know to lean towards so I think it's best to keep my mouth shut. But then I feel like a racist for being outwardly neutral on the subject. I feel like I'm gonna regret posting this and that people are just gonna drag me for saying all this with the usual "oh you poor white, you have it so hard" but I'm honestly not trying to say that or imply that this issue is hard for me because I'm not the one it's hard for. I just don't know what to do. |
I understand what you mean. Also, I apologize that you feel you will be attacked for speaking out. This conversation is legitimate and you shouldn't feel afraid to ask questions.
From my personal witnessing, i've seen people who are EXTREMELY passionate about BLM get applauded for speaking out. Just look at the Selena Gomez thing for example, people respect people who speak up and don't turn a blind eye. Don't end up like her.
You are not a racist by the way. There is no requirement for what you need to say or what you need to do. Just be aware and speak up so that other's can be aware as well. The same way BLM needs to speak up on other issues of injustice with islamophobia, homophobia, exc. when their injustices come. 
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Originally posted by avi
should other races like asians , indians also feel the same?
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It was not my intention to exclude anyone.
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Originally posted by Dark XXX
So was Trayvon Martin a thug then? Was Tamir Rice a thug?
Stupid piece of ****.
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Originally posted by Truffle.
i don't feel the need to do anything because of my skin colour
i do it cus i want to, not because i'm white |
And that is your privilege right there.
You don't feel the need to chemically straighten & damage your hair for a job interview because natural black fros can be deemed "unprofessional".
You don't feel the danger walking down your street at night from the store because you'll be seen as suspect.
You don't feel the need to fight for fairness for all, because that fairness is automatically handed to you.
You don't feel the need to educate, revolt, protest or question because you don't have to.
And that sis, is because of the color of your skin.
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