But us carnivores live a happier life.

VEGANS ALWAYS WIN!!!!!!!!

Isn't there already a Vegan thread where you guys can celebrate this discovery? I'm sure you're proud of yourself for this, and you have the full right to be. But these constant threads about Veganism are always messy, and never lead to anywhere. You'll basically have people posting pictures of meat and what not, and others criticising them for eating meat and trying to enforce Veganism on them.

OT: This is good.

There's decades worth of research to show the opposite though
130k people over 30 years is way to specific to actually mean something.

Nice myth.

Using scare tactics isn't a good way to promote veganism because it gives it a bad image

Xox

why do y'all want people to get onto your diet so bad though? if after all of your methods of persuasion they still don't want to get onto veganism, maybe you should just leave them alone and let it/them be?

and that's the sacrifice we're willing to take, as long as the message is spread



supply and demand

This study sucks ass. The issue with studies like this (and this article fails to mention it) is that they poorly represent the idea of vegetarianism (let alone veganism) from a data perspective. This study lumped individuals that only eat fish as a meat source and individuals that only occasionally eat meat as vegetarians/vegans.


I hope I don't have to break down exactly as to how this delegitimizes the actual "findings" of this studies in terms of the benefits of veganism. But, in a nutshell, this means that vegans live 12% longer than excessive meat eaters, which isn't a good argument to be a vegan, only a good argument for moderate meat consumption (particularly of red meats).

Pick a better study next time.

this is why I lowkey stan

Veganism isn't a diet lol. It's literally just refusing to use animal products unless absolutely necessary. It's a way of ending or at least reducing unnecessary animal suffering.

It's literally just about having compassion

I'm not afraid to die

I'd rather have friends js

Poor me

veganism IS a diet hun, open a dictionary once every blue moon



habitually eating a certain kind/type of food is literally the definition of a diet

This is great, and I'm very happy for my vegan friends, but I don't think people should just blindly read this and assume 'if I eat a vegan diet I will live a longer and healthier life than my meat-eating friends' similarly meat-eaters shouldn't assume they'll absolutely die younger etc.

Of course studies show it will help your health and lifespan etc, but I know many people (countless family members) who have lived into their 90's free of disease from following a very meat-based diet. Similarly there are lots of cases in the world of people on vegan diets, very strict, healthy diets who sadly come down with terminal cancers etc.

Unfortunately in this day and age things such as cancers and other diseases are sometimes a case of luck, you can follow the best diets in the world but still might be struck down by an awful disease that'll kill you before you're 60.

Of course following a vegan diet will make you feel good and be healthy, but I just hope people won't run to a vegan diet thinking it'll automatically entitle them to a longer and healthier life. I'd love to go vegan, but unfortunately I think I'd rather enjoy my life (I LOVE food and meat/dairy products) and be happy, than restrict myself, and perhaps live a longer life, but feel sad from the lack of eating the things that I love.

As with everything in life 'everything in moderation' is good advice here I think.

P.s- I'm aware the vegan alternatives to diary/meat products etc are becoming better and better, but personally for me I think most things i.e vegan cheese are absolutely foul in comparison to the real thing. So yeah.