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Discussion: U.S. Election 2016
Member Since: 8/16/2010
Posts: 15,137
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Originally posted by hellocory
Hillary's odds are decreasing over on FiveThirtyEight
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Expected with the post FBI polls. Down from "extremely likely" to "pretty likely."
We'll see where everything settles around Labor Day.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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I know a few people that are voting Trump because they don't like her. However, their argument is that she'll destroy America. In what scenario would she be a worse president than Trump? I mean, I can already see Trump insulting like ALL the countries in a G20 meeting or via tweets or something. In a weird life twist, Canada will build a wall to keep us away.
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Member Since: 7/21/2012
Posts: 28,099
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No matter who you support, let's just remember that Hillary will raise $1 trillion over the next decade while Trump will decrease revenue by $10 trillion over the next decade.
Just food for thought.
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Member Since: 1/4/2012
Posts: 7,329
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Originally posted by Mike91
I'm just worried the next four years will be a continuation of the past 7.5 years. Instead of fixing the country, all Washington will be doing is trying to uncover more Hillary scandals, etc.
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We just REALLY need to vote on mid-terms. Get those useless Republicans out of there.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
Posts: 365
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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf
I didn't say they had a better plan, I was just pointing out hers is super thin and full promises that will not come true. Hillary's plan is cutting interest rates and and help with refinancing, plus finding money to give to schools. That's it. There will be no free college, she has no real plan for half her stuff. Telling people to vote for me and you got to school for free is super deceptive.
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She should have already have these plans planned out by now. She is basically selling "Pies in the sky" at the moment. 
This scares me because polls are all over the place were Trump is beating her in one and another has her winning. I was told she was going to win by a landslide against this maniac.
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Originally posted by hellocory
Hillary's odds are decreasing over on FiveThirtyEight
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Considering Nate Silver, those numbers don't matter. It's too early polls numbers don't mean nothing.
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Member Since: 7/21/2012
Posts: 28,099
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Originally posted by 1DES
She should have already have these plans planned out by now. She is basically selling "Pies in the sky" at the moment. 
This scares me because polls are all over the place were Trump is beating her in one and another has her winning. I was told she was going to win by a landslide against this maniac.
Considering Nate Silver, those numbers don't matter. It's too early polls numbers don't mean nothing.
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The electoral map will be a landslide, but not the popular vote. This will be every election for decades to come I fear.
Republicans are white people concentrated in small, rural states. Democrats are scattered in the bigger diverse states which is good and bad for us.
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Member Since: 2/20/2012
Posts: 24,225
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Why should community college be free for people? If students want free college, they can work for it, prove their determination, and be awarded based on academic merit. But alas, libs wanna give everything away for free. 
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Member Since: 7/21/2012
Posts: 28,099
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Originally posted by chilicheese01
Why should community college be free for people? If students want free college, they can work for it, prove their determination, and be awarded based on academic merit. But alas, libs wanna give everything away for free. 
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We have free public elementary, middle, and high schools. Why can't we have free community college for trades? Giving people two years of free school BUT ONLY IF THEY DO WORK STUDY, will give them a transition and time to get the skills and money to pay for college.
Libs don't want just free. We want everyone to get the opportunity to succeed. A lot kids, especially blacks and Hispanics have a hard time already exceeding. Community college shouldn't be free forever, but it should be now until these two groups are accurately placed into the workforce like white people.
The economy is stacked against these poor people, where most are attending community colleges. Giving them free options will make them more excited and determined that the country cares for them.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
Posts: 365
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Originally posted by chilicheese01
Why should community college be free for people? If students want free college, they can work for it, prove their determination, and be awarded based on academic merit. But alas, libs wanna give everything away for free. 
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Yes, if we living in the 70s this might have worked out. But we are living right now where most people are taking in a third job, trying to pay for it. Then later finding out that the degree is useless if there isn't jobs in that field.
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Member Since: 2/20/2012
Posts: 24,225
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Originally posted by King Maxx
We have free public elementary, middle, and high schools. Why can't we have free community college for trades? Giving people two years of free school BUT ONLY IF THEY DO WORK STUDY, will give them a transition and time to get the skills and money to pay for college.
Libs don't want just free. We want everyone to get the opportunity to succeed. A lot kids, especially blacks and Hispanics have a hard time already exceeding. Community college shouldn't be free forever, but it should be now until these two groups are accurately placed into the workforce like white people.
The economy is stacked against these poor people, where most are attending community colleges. Giving them free options will make them more excited and determined that the country cares for them.
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If people in these ethnic groups want to succeed, they will work for it. Besides, I'm sure colleges would be more than willing to throw scholarship money these kids' ways to increase diversity (there's a bonus just for being black or Hispanic!).
I'm white and worked my ass off in high school to earn a free education at a university. Others should, too, if the cost of higher education is a problem.
EDIT: I probably received that based on white privilege, though, right?
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 16,870
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RANT time
Republicans have some nerve trying to frame hillary as a liar. How soon Republicans have forgotten George Bush. After 9/11 George Bush stood before the ENTIRE nation and lied to them. He said there were 100% definitely absolutely Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq.
He sent hundreds of soldiers to die from IEDs, car bombs, and suicide attacks because America was in GRAVE DANGER from "weapons of mass destruction"
And behold there were ZERO weapons of mass destruction and this entire terrorist mess started.
A Republican lied to the entire country and they have the audacity to blame President Obama and Hillary Clinton?
November can't come soon enough. 
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
Posts: 19,066
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Hillary exposed herself as a liar, no one did for her. The Taylor Swift of politics.
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Member Since: 8/16/2011
Posts: 19,718
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Originally posted by chilicheese01
EDIT: I probably received that based on white privilege, though, right?
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Oh shut it.
Everyone's life situation is different. Black or white. I'm from rural Idaho w/ a 0.9 % black population and I've seen white kids struggle to pay for community college cause they're helping their family out by working out of high school or not completely finishing because the financial barrier to college enrollment is daunting.
Getting more people more educated in the right fields (we're not talking about Psychology majors here) will help stimulate middle class growth and keep the nation's workforce competitive.
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Member Since: 7/21/2012
Posts: 28,099
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Originally posted by chilicheese01
If people in these ethnic groups want to succeed, they will work for it. Besides, I'm sure colleges would be more than willing to throw scholarship money these kids' ways to increase diversity (there's a bonus just for being black or Hispanic!).
I'm white and worked my ass off in high school to earn a free education at a university. Others should, too, if the cost of higher education is a problem.
EDIT: I probably received that based on white privilege, though, right?
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This isn't even a Democratic/liberal thing. Red states have started free community college as well. It's has been proven as beneficial for citizens and the economy.
As far as just being determined to succeed is not enough. I graduated Top 10 of my class, and I don't even have a full ride anywhere. I can't even get financial aid at some schools because my parents "make too much money" when they don't even make over $80K and just bought a house with a big mortgage.
College affordability is a problem for people of all races, ages, and financial aspects.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 16,870
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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf
Hillary exposed herself as a liar, no one did for her. The Taylor Swift of politics.
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Yes, she lied, but to discount all the good she did for the people of America while she served in the Senate is pathetic. They give her zero credit and dismiss her.
But they hate "divisive" rhetoric 
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Member Since: 7/21/2012
Posts: 28,099
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Actually if you want to really delve into it, community college should be a priority for blue collar families in the Rust Belt states. Rather they admit it or not, technology is the future. Clean energy and new developed infrastructure is the future. These people will either have to go to community colleges and get a trade or continue to face poverty as coal dies out soon.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 16,870
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Ugh not republicans whining about no jobs and poverty. Like, they promote the military so much why not tell their struggling young people to enlist? The good old boys in west virgina can ditch the coal mines and fight the "Radical Islamic Terrorists" they hate so much
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Member Since: 11/15/2009
Posts: 16,903
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Did anybody else think that the Hillary4Prison meme was funny until they realized that the people who use it are serious?  They genuinely believe Hillary should be incarcerated 
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Member Since: 1/20/2012
Posts: 27,830
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Wait, Hillary released a new college plan?
Her old one was horrible and made no sense so I'm interested in seeing if this one is any better.
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Member Since: 4/17/2011
Posts: 6,399
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Originally posted by @michael
Did anybody else think that the Hillary4Prison meme was funny until they realized that the people who use it are serious?  They genuinely believe Hillary should be incarcerated 
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Something like that from the GOP was never just a "meme".
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