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Discussion: Is Africa the least racist continent?
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Originally posted by Callisto.
Latin American countries have the same exact basis for the country creation as the US. Native Americans live there, Europeans come with African slaves. Native Americans numbers die down giving Europeans change to attack. Europeans implement racist laws and rules onto Africans, Natives, and their children of mixed heritage.
The only difference is The Portuguese & Spanish used race mixing as a weapon and the English used segregation.
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can you elaborate on this?
my family's Spanish but i dont know anything about what actually happened during the conquest outside of mexico and the Philippines
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Originally posted by Rihbeyga
Wait this is true with South African Coloured, you get the ones that look white and some that look mixed and then dark ones but at the end of the day they are coloured. Where as America and their one drop rule want us to either group everyone as black or white.
Coloured people are completely different to black people here, they've evolved differently in terms of culture etc. That's why we recognise them as their own race. Pardo/Mestizos people would be coloured here and not black.
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I actually forgot about that and, but I don't believe that is what beautiful Liar was talking about. He was saying that Latinos as a whole despite whether they are of mixed hertiage are all one race of people.
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latino is not a race, a majority of latinos (in the US anyways) are mixed hence why the ethnicity is used interchangeably as race but latinos can be white, black, native, asian etc. And they can very well be racist, many are stop this nonsense BL
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no. USA is actually one of the more open society when it comes to race.
unfortunately, because of democracy some people wants to abuse it.
you can't erase racism entirely because we are born with prejudice.
Canada is probably the least racist country in the world
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Jordan and India were named the world's least tolerant countries.
United States, Britain, Canada and South America are among the least racist.
Just because the racial issues are louder (and highly publicised) doesn't mean they're more predominant in western countries.
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This thread is a mess.
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Originally posted by Callisto.
Latin American countries have the same exact basis for the country creation as the US. Native Americans live there, Europeans come with African slaves. Native Americans numbers die down giving Europeans change to attack. Europeans implement racist laws and rules onto Africans, Natives, and their children of mixed heritage.
The only difference is The Portuguese & Spanish used race mixing as a weapon and the English used segregation.
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Nope that's a lie, Latin America was more of a mine of gold for Spain and Portugal, people came here to work and then return to their countries not to stay here. That's the reason why mixing happened in the first place, not so many families came here to settle down and stay in the continent. The fall of the Inca Empire was actually consumated thanks to many native american ethnic groups that turned on the Inca and worked with Pizarro. They numbers were still pretty high after the conquest.
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Originally posted by Hotshot
no. USA is actually one of the more open society when it comes to race.
unfortunately, because of democracy some people wants to abuse it.
you can't erase racism entirely because we are born with prejudice.
Canada is probably the least racist country in the world
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I don't believe this to be true. We are however born into prejudice but no one is born with.
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Originally posted by Rihbeyga
Wait this is true with South African Coloured, you get the ones that look white and some that look mixed and then dark ones but at the end of the day they are coloured. Where as America and their one drop rule want us to either group everyone as black or white.
Coloured people are completely different to black people here, they've evolved differently in terms of culture etc. That's why we recognise them as their own race. Pardo/Mestizos people would be coloured here and not black.
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I'm Taylor Swift white and my sisters are like a Leona Lewis brown skin tone and you be surprised how many times I get label as white and my sisters as Black that's not how it works because in Puerto Rico were looked at as neither and I can assure you its the same in Latin America or even in Spain
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Originally posted by Hotshot
no. USA is actually one of the more open society when it comes to race.
unfortunately, because of democracy some people wants to abuse it.
you can't erase racism entirely because we are born with prejudice.
Canada is probably the least racist country in the world
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Member Since: 8/24/2008
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Originally posted by TheLuckyOnes
can you elaborate on this?
my family's Spanish but i dont know anything about what actually happened during the conquest outside of mexico and the Philippines
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When the Spanish and Portuguese arrived to the Americas, they weren't necessarily trying to settle there, so it was mostly Spanish and Portuguese men only(as opposed to the English in the US who had both English men and women). The Spanish and the Portuguese married and mixed with Natives and Africans (but alot of times wouldn't allow Natives and Africans to mix).
Long story short I think once slavery was ended and alot of the Portuguese and Spanish now considered Latin American their homes because they had been generations removed from Spain or Portugal they had a dilemma with the fact that they were outnumbered racially. So they banned non white immigrants and allowed nothing but white immigrants into their countries and promoting race mixing, but truly what they promoted was whitening the race.
That's why alot of latinos are still mixed but alot of them are more European than any other race.
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A Redenção de Cam (Redemption of Ham), Modesto Brocos, 1895, Museu Nacional de Belas Artes. The painting depicts a black grandmother, mulatta mother, white father and their white child.
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Originally posted by St. Charles
@ Beautiful Liar
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Very interesting map. Also interesting that the providers rarely get even a part of the blame when they had half of the responsibility in the transactions.
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Originally posted by Hotshot
you can't erase racism entirely because we are born with prejudice.
Canada is probably the least racist country in the world
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I agree with your second point only to a certain extent, because Canada SEEMS to be that way. Even a tourist's perspective, a native (And then it depends on the age of any native and if they've been alive long enough to see different era of their country) might think differently.
Your first point, from my perspective is incorrect. No one pops out of the womb with prejudice when babies don't even know how to lift their heads properly. Prejudice has to be TAUGHT and LEARNED in a family, environment, community, etc. And let's hope this doesn't occur before ABC's.
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Originally posted by Aviana
Didn't Mandela end it and brought peace to the whole country?
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Ever heard of Martin Luther King, Jr?
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Originally posted by A$APRoman
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You can laugh at this all you like but it doesn't make it untrue. Try being a minority anywhere else and not only will you suffer the same terrible discrimination, you will be stripped of your right to even speak out about it.
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Originally posted by Beautiful Liar
I'm Taylor Swift white and my sisters are like a Leona Lewis brown skin tone and you be surprised how many times I get label as white and my sisters as Black that's now how it works because in Puerto Ricobwere looked at as neither and I can assure its the same in Latin America
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So you've never actually been to South America and you're vouching for it?
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Originally posted by Idontcareaboutyou
Very interesting map. Also interesting that the providers rarely get even a part of the blame when they had half of the responsibility in the transactions.
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I believe it was actually Portugal who started the modern slave trade. And there were Africans who kidnapped other Africans and sold them, yeah. Not to mention their own slaves and prisoners. Some were stolen by whites. Some migrated and then were taken into captivity. So many different factors.
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Originally posted by Domination
You can laugh at this all you like but it doesn't make it untrue. Try being a minority anywhere else and not only will you suffer the same terrible discrimination, you will be stripped of your right to even speak out about it.
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Originally posted by M André
Nope that's a lie, Latin America was more of a mine of gold for Spain and Portugal, people came here to work and then return to their countries not to stay here. That's the reason why mixing happened in the first place, not so many families came here to settle down and stay in the continent. The fall of the Inca Empire was actually consumated thanks to many native american ethnic groups that turned on the Inca and worked with Pizarro. They numbers were still pretty high after the conquest.
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Yeah I know that I was pretty much condensing it since each country obviously has their own little differences as to why something happened and how it happened, but the basis is still the same. For some reason Natives in South America's numbers dwindled but were still able to remain relatively high in comparison to Caribbean Natives who were completely wiped out and Native Americans in the US who had severely reduced numbers.
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Originally posted by St. Charles
I believe it was actually Portugal who started the modern slave trade. And there were Africans who kidnapped other Africans and sold them, yeah.
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The modern, perhaps, but slavery had been going on since at least the 6th century in that part of Africa. And of course it was standard in older societies such as Ancient Greece, Ancient Rome and Ancien Egypt.
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