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Discussion: The ugly truth about Black crime in the US
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Most of those crimes are petty nonviolent offenses. Whites make up the majority of those incarcerated for violent offenses, but OP will not mention that.
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in a judicial system where a 16 year old white boy can get drunk and drive, kill a family of four, and not do any jail time because "he's too rich and his parents never taught him right from wrong", a white man can rape an unconscious woman, video tape it, and only get 4 of months jail time, in a country where a white kid can murder 9 black people in a church and be given a bulletproof vest and treated to burger king by the police, you're wondering why black people have higher conviction rates?
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Originally posted by BadBitches
If the system ain't going to fix it's self, you fix the system. I've known many people in my circle would could've been deprived of a "better life" by drugs and poverty. Hell, my ex-boyfriend used to sleep with a knife under his pillow in fear of his uncle killing him in his sleep. Did he give up? No. Did he fall into the trap of drugs. No. He killed himself to get his film degree whilst also looking after his grandmother with dementia. I'm not saying everyone's situation is the same, but if you truly want something you god damn fight for it. No matter what. Blood, sweat and tears. |
This is nothing but the typical bootstraps story that doesn't address the real issues that have a toll on people and just "trying harder" isn't gonna make it work. It also is disrespectful and makes it seem like Black people aren't trying.
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Originally posted by blaggot
in a judicial system where a 16 year old white boy can get drunk and drive, kill a family of four, and not do any jail time because "he's too rich and his parents never taught him right from wrong", a white man can rape an unconscious woman, video tape it, and only get 4 of months jail time, in a country where a white kid can murder 9 black people in a church and be given a bulletproof vest and treated to burger king by the police, you're wondering why black people have higher conviction rates?
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Black people need to just push through it!1!1!1
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Yes, there is black on black crime. There's also white on white crime.
But, crime committed against people that look like you isn't because they look like it.
Those that commit these "black on black' crimes, if caught, will be convicted on their crime. (The conviction will often be harsher than they're white counter parts. See: The Drug Wars.) There's some justice.
BLM is protesting the injustice of police officers murdering Black people, and not receiving any punishment.
I'm not sure why this concept is so hard to understand.
Let's not even get into Redlining (again, created by white poeple), the process that created the neighborhoods where this black on black crime takes place.
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Originally posted by Swim
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Disgusting that your making fun out of my post.
My ex came from Jamaica, Queens and to this day, remains one of my best friends. His life has never been easy and his father is a sociopath. I've met his family and relatives, his aunty was one of the most caring and funny women I've met, but the rest of his family were toxic people. They wanted him to stay in Queens and "take over the family business". He didn't want nothing to do with that and moved to ALT. He works as a CAN, breaking his back every week just to hustle up someone money to feed and shelter himself. He's honestly inspired me in so many ways. He bought me this paper weight with a quote; "life is a journey, not a destination". He held my hand on a 16-hour bustrip from NYC to ALT; I suffer from social anxiety and traveling on that bus was a nightmare, yet he helped me. To make a mockery out of my life and personal friendship with someone who is African american is disrespectful. He doesn't make excuses from himself. He could just give up one day and turn to drugs or give into his controlling father, but no he fights on not knowing what's next. That's why I'll never let him go.
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Originally posted by borntodiethisway
Black people need to just push through it.
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racism ended with the 3/5ths compromise
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Originally posted by blaggot
in a judicial system where a 16 year old white boy can get drunk and drive, kill a family of four, and not do any jail time because "he's too rich and his parents never taught him right from wrong", a white man can rape an unconscious woman, video tape it, and only get 4 of months jail time, in a country where a white kid can murder 9 black people in a church and be given a bulletproof vest and treated to burger king by the police, you're wondering why black people have higher conviction rates?
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OK!!! You let them ****ing KNOW!
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Member Since: 6/19/2012
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Originally posted by Ares
Yes, there is black on black crime. There's also white on white crime.
But, crime committed against people that look like you isn't because they look like it.
Those that commit these "black on black' crimes, if caught, will be convicted on their crime. (The conviction will often be harsher than they're white counter parts. See: The Drug Wars.) There's some justice. |
Also, it's not as though black people have all made a pact to not commit crimes on each other. However, the police do have a social and legal contract with all communities to protect and serve, one that is breached whenever they overstep their authority and kill innocent black people.
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let's stop with the race wars
and spread love to one another
each of us is a flower
growing in life's garden 
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Originally posted by Dark Matter
This is discussion topic. Please no "All Lives Matter" BS because that doesn't add to the conversation or solve the struggle of the Black community in America:
Hard cold fact: the Black community makes up 13% of the US population, but commit 52% of homocides and 38% of serious and violent crimes in America. [ Source]
For the percentage of crimes they commit, White, Hispanic and Other communities are more likely to be shot and/or killed by police officers than the Black community.
94% of all crimes against the Black community are comitted by the Black community.
Why does the BLM movement seem to ignore there is also a clear problem within the Black community?
Serious discussion please.
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How do you know the black community isnt doing anything about black on black crime? The stats show crime has gone down steadily since the 1990s. So....
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The data point to a persistent perception gap among Americans. Despite strong evidence of crime dropping over recent decades, the public sees the reverse. "Recent Gallup polls have found that citizens overwhelmingly feel crime is going up even though it is not," says Professor Fox. "This is because of the growth of crime shows and the way that TV spotlights the emotional. One case of a random, horrific shooting shown repeatedly on TV has more visceral effect than all the statistics printed in a newspaper."
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Secondly....
5 Facts That Shatter the Myth of ‘Black-on-Black’ Crime
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1. 84 percent of white murder victims were white
2. Whites kill more whites than black people kill each other
3. White people commit more crimes than any other race
4. White people kill more members of vulnerable populations than any other race
5. Gang murders are most common among white gangs
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*drops mic*
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I get so tired of hearing of this "black on black" crime ******** that racist assholes have made up to deflect from reality. Considering most crime is INTRARACIAL to begin with, how come we don't hear about all of this "white on white" crime going on? Oh yeah because when a white person commits a crime against another white person, it's just a crime in the general overarching sense, with no racial connotation attached. Even then, a white criminal is usually given the benefit of the doubt, reasoned as mentally insane, and judged on an individual basis. African Americans and other POC aren't afforded this luxury and are judged consistently as a whole. Until you care to discuss "white on white" crime, or hell even "blue on black/brown" crime, let's not with the "black on black." You're deflecting.
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each of us is a flower
we need the sun and rain
we don't need this hate !!!
hug each other
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Originally posted by blaggot
in a judicial system where a 16 year old white boy can get drunk and drive, kill a family of four, and not do any jail time because "he's too rich and his parents never taught him right from wrong", a white man can rape an unconscious woman, video tape it, and only get 4 of months jail time, in a country where a white kid can murder 9 black people in a church and be given a bulletproof vest and treated to burger king by the police, you're wondering why black people have higher conviction rates?
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Originally posted by blaggot
racism ended with the 3/5ths compromise
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You know whats funny. Black Americans went through slavery and were set "free" with nothing but the dirty clothes on their backs. They weren't given land or even a pot to piss in. They had to create their own poor communities only to go straight into the Jim Crow era where segregation kept them separate but "equal" but even then when they did actually make a come up during these times they were shot down.
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During the oil boom of the 1910s, the area of northeast Oklahoma around Tulsa flourished, including the Greenwood neighborhood, which came to be known as "the Negro Wall Street" (now commonly referred to as "the Black Wall Street").[3] The area was home to several prominent black businessmen. Greenwood boasted a variety of thriving businesses that were very successful up until the Tulsa Race Riot. Not only did black Americans want to contribute to the success of their own shops, but there were also racial segregation laws that prevented them from shopping anywhere other than Greenwood.[4] Following the riots, the area was rebuilt and thrived until the 1960s when desegregation allowed blacks to shop in areas from which they were previously restricted
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The Tulsa Race Riot occurred in late May 31st and June 1st, 1921. On the day of the riot, 35 square blocks of homes and businesses were torched by mobs of angry whites. The riot began because of the alleged assault of a white elevator operator, 17-year-old Sarah Page, by a black shoeshiner, 19-year old Dick Rowland.
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Segregation ended and what did they think was going to happy? Suddenly those racist who wanted them out of America in the first place were suddenly going to see them as humans after that law was passed?
And let's not even get into Housing discrimination.
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Ethnic and racial minorities are impacted the most by housing discrimination. Exclusionary discrimination against African Americans most often occurs in rental markets and sales markets. Families are vulnerable to exclusion, but African American women are especially overrepresented as victims, especially single African American mothers. This discriminatory exclusion is because of stereotypes concerning race and single women. The presence of children in a minority family at times is what warrants the discrimination.[20] African Americans are also the victims in most nonexclusionary cases, with African American women still overrepresented. Nonexclusionary forms of discrimination such as racial slurs and intimidation affect many minority victims.
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But you know what despite all that discrimination that is dealt out on a constant daily basis we're just supposed to overcome it all and be a perfect picture example of society.
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Originally posted by BadBitches
Many black people from poor, uneducated backgrounds rise above the system and go onto college education. You act like some folk don't have a choice. Many people - black, white, Hispanic, asian etc...- sometimes just don't care and don't better themselves. Excuse after excuse. Stop making excuses and make your own solutions. It's better than waiting on one. |
Wow. You're acting like people can push a button to escape poverty. It's very easy to talk when you're not in their situation. Unfortunately, everything isn't perfect in this nation, people can only do so much. But when you're struggling to get a hearty meal for your family, you really see things from a different perspective. What are they supposed to do? Get a job that pays minimum wage and hope that they'll have enough money to pay for college while having to pay for rent/mortgage, food, clothes, electricity, etc.? Everyone here knows that that's not going to happen. Unfortunately some people aren't well educated due to the fact that some schools are given less money, resulting in less to spend on resources for students. People go through different things, and because of this, people see illegal drug trafficking as their only solution, because it pays and there's no education required. So for you to say that it's an excuse is completely ignorant.
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Originally posted by Beautiful Liar
The LGBTQ doesn't have this issue tho
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The LGBTQ community also has its issues, high HIV rates than their hetero counterparts, high drug use? Chem sex. They also have a choice but hey they choose to die like flies? Right? Based on your logic. Higher suicide rates? Have less brighter futures than their straight counterparts, so engage in destructive behaviour at a higher percentage by relying on their bodies. If one was to be insensitive to the LGBTQ community, they would literally prove that a high percentage, never become successful in life as their hetero counterparts and can paint a doomed picture of their community as whole, ignoring Tom cook and successful gay men all over the globe. Same with the black community, how many black men and women are successful globally? Many even in the USA but now they are reduced to black crime.
Now on black crime, if one could tell me that all the blacks lynched in the south deserved their death from children to adults, then id say America is an effing pretentious country, when it says racism is dead today. The highest crime issues were in the 30's but all the white people involved were painted as some romantic criminals, from AL Capone to Bonnie and Clyde, they ignore the people that got harmed by such criminals but instead paint them as some romantic characters, together with many white criminals from those eras. In the 50's when black people fought for equality, weren't white people as they always did, painting them as savages,rapists and a black man free is just a danger to society. Then we go to the 70's with the black panther movement, that had its demands and flaws equally but lord they got more hell than even the KKK. Its only till the 80's when blacks again called out the KKK as usual for their injustice through the century, that white people began bashing them but guess what, till now they are alive, where is the black panther movement today? Is it as big as the KKK?
On the modern culture today in the ghetto black community on don't snitch in the ghetto, rap and hip hop criminal obsession. Its a disgusting behaviour that should be completely abhorred but i also ask. Imagine living in a ghetto, you know very well, you will never get out of it due to low quality access to education, economic struggling-wondering what you will eat tomorrow, the police wont assist innocent families in the ghetto from crime protection, you might be turned against or your case never sees the light of day. What will you do? your on your own. How about the negative misconception pushed by the media on how police are more valued than this innocent families, so what will they do? Wont you be having high numbers of youth that join this criminal gangs to survive for their families, less telling on their criminal friends and relatives? Now if the government was truly interested in demolishing such cesspools, wouldn't they change the police system, by educating the police on the importance of a police force for all? Better justice system and better corrective measures. Better quality education accessibility in the ghetto,how about the media, why focus on rappers and sports guys as the face of the community and by the way ignore all the scientific black inventors, business moguls? Am sure many dont know african american scientific inventors from the past to date.
Now let me come to the reality on crime related issue in America as a whole, who are the highest consumers of drugs in America, even white gangs exist that deal with drugs, illegal weapons e, it sure aint the black community but the white community. We know how the media puts a romantic spin to drug use by white people(party, fun, celebrities), gangs are called syndicates etc How about all the crimes done by the white folks? Rape,molestation,familial molesting? White collar crime?(something made romantic, yet its corruption that grabs money away from development programs),Murder, psychopaths(but we shall discuss on crime based channels how they were from this and that background,give them a humane twist but the balck man some gloomy look) . If the media and police force suddenly turned on the the white community and gave them an equal dose of how blacks are treated, many of them would be in incarcerated, shot. Hey less programs on white people being portrayed positively but as paedophiles, drug users, criminal gangs,kkk but hey lets ignore the negative people in the white community but lets focus on the positive ones more. The doctors,lawyers,businessmen etc But guess what in those occupation many black people sit pretty at the top with them but its less fun to show them in that light, cause it doesn't make good tv. (in short lets damage the black community at the expense of ratings,malicious cycles)
Don't be an LGBT person and literally be ignorant enough to bash a minority, yet we equally suffer that negative treatment in the media. They portray feminine gays as useless, yet ignore the feminine successful gay men owning big business and the list is endless. We always have to fight for positive representation in the media and not the betraying gay and the killed off LGBT person, yet it was the only presentation. Obviously such negative representation, affect the community and young ones. Which again is a malicious cycle repeating, of doomed gays, leads to suicide, destructive lives and closet people at any extreme.
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