the fact some in here are actually defending apple

first of all people defending Apple Netflix didn't have in-app purchase for years and no one in Apple complained. I love apple but 30% sales cut is ridiculous

Apple's rules and regulations on in-app subscriptions are perfectly legal.

They're a music vendor, they're not going to let their competition literally use their services, their products, and their technology at no cost. They also have every right to establish reasonable, legal rules for using their services.

Amen.

The fact that Spotify was trying to bypass Apple's established rules and fees by updating into a in-app sign-up. The kii that most of you were trying to defile Apple when Spotify was trying to spread a lie about Apple.

Cringe at most of you being naïve in business savvy sense.

You use the App Store to peddle your product, you HAVE to pay Apple upfront 30% for using one of the most popular ecosystems. No one gets to use another competitor's product for free ever.

Kinda sad how people are happy to be ripped off for YEARS by Apple who charge excessive amounts and greedily benefit from EXORBITANT profit.

Spotify comes along, completely changes the game, creates a great service that can be accessed and used for FREE.

So Apple copies it, and then everyone flocks to Apple as if they somehow did something good? They only created their service cause they had to - otherwise they'd be happily ripping you off forcing you to pay for every song.

That's not going to last forever. A freemium model isn't sustainable for a music-oriented app where they have to pay royalties; at least Apple Music is going to sustain itself right from the start by sticking to a pay model.

Spotify is going to run into problems down the road despite peddling an 'innovative concept'.

And first off, you didn't have to buy Apple's products (including what is more innovative than streaming; iTunes store) if you knew you were being ripped off. I certainly didn't buy it when I didn't have to.

poor Apple. Glad people are finally exposing them for their evil schemes

Poor all of you. This is common place in corporate businesses (from retail to Internet companies). And that quote is so dumb because iOS is literally Apple's product and creation and market.

It's literally common sense that you have to pay in any ecosystem that you peddle your products.

It's not common at all. With Spotify on Android or Windows Phone you can sign up any way you want.

Apple is just greedy and misleading people into paying more money to them. You download the app once and that's it, no more interaction with their ecosystem. And they want $3 a month for that. Pure fraud.

Every time you open that app and listen to music, you're using their ecosystem. You're using one of the most successful and popular devices in the history of mobile technology. Apple, by providing this operating system and phone line for people to use to push their digital products, is providing Spotify a service. iOS was one of the first platforms with an app for Spotify and probably trails only PCs as their leading source of subscriptions and usage.

There's little reason to expect Apple to give Spotify the ability to be present in their stores at zero cost. If you liken it to a retail store from which you purchase some particular product every month, each time you buy it the physical retail location gets a cut of that sale.

The difference being that iOS / App Store is an enclosed ecosystem privatized on a singular device. Windows Phone and Android are on multiple different flagship phones and operating systems.

Plus the problem I have with this whole "fraud / Apple is greedy" argument is that people literally don't realize there's plenty of ecosystems out there that fit their needs instead of giving their money to Apple. Amazon MP3s are an alternative to iTunes for example. I use that when I need a readily converted format that works with either Android or Apple device. Trying to say Apple is greedy is really a faulty logic when their whole premise is to profit off their solid system (which I don't really fault for since I tend to mix and match their system with others like Amazon MP3s).

There's really nothing illegal or fraud about them having an established controlled system that doesn't deal with as many problems as with an open source operating system like Android (let's face it, it being so widespread and available on alternative flagship phones gives it a bigger target for malicious software). Plus they're providing one of the biggest ecosytems around and letting your competition profit off it for free is absurd.

And Spotify is anti-music.

Go figure

Apple Music stays winning with a superior interface which allows for seamless iOS integration, more songs from relevant artists, and it actually pays artists, all for a cheaper price ($5/month for college students).

Spotify was a mistake to begin with, but its impact is irreversible. It's time to take it down.

I prefer Spotify more than Apple music. It's easier to use and they offer free subscription (yeah, their ads are tolerable, though).