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Discussion: Is the AOTY race already over?
Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by ABeyBraith
Sigh, I guess this needs explaining cause some of you don't get it.
Credits go to people even if they change one word of the song, if they have a little idea for a melody change, if they are present in the room while songs are being made they get a credit.
Around 45 people had a hand in creating Lemonade however Beyoncé was involved in every step of the process. An additional 15 people were given credits due to samples that were used, some were even shocked to receive them because of subtle similarities with a single line of lyrics.
Y'all love to throw shade and try it without actually doing the research or even having an understanding of how credits are distributed  |
All of this is true and I agree, but the matter of fact is that the Grammys are very hesitant in giving AOTY to albums with a long ass list of producers/engineers/mixers. The same reasons why channel orange, both Kendrick Lamar albums, BEYONCÉ among others didn't win AOTY. LEMONADE is an amazing album but because it has so many credits I think it's the least likely to win AOTY, even if it's the most deserving.
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Member Since: 6/1/2010
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Beck was one of the best reviewed album of its year, though.
If 25 is nominated, I wouldn't underestimate it for a win. Adele has become a heavy Grammy favorite over the years. The Grammys completely recognized her for 19, even going as far as to nominate her for "Hometown Glory" in Pop Female, when it didn't gain any traction in the US. They didn't even hesitate to nominate and reward her for a live version of a song in a pop category. She would be a name-check favorite, if nominated.
Beyoncé also has a good chance because unlike Adele, she has never won AOTY. People thought Beyoncé was snubbed, and she's a heavy favorite at the Grammys, too. Urban albums tend not to do well, but I also think people feel Beyoncé is legendary and has made a musical triumph with Lemonade. Plus, I feel that Lemonade is a lot more "safer" (if you will) then the sometimes raunchy Beyoncé.
Radiohead is the one I think people should fear, though. If nominated, this would be their FOURTH appearance in AOTY. The album is rock/alternative and a heavy critical favorite. It DOES remind me of Beck. Morning Phase was up for AOTY and became Beck's third nomination. There was an overdue factor. Plus it was up against a bunch of pop and urban albums. I could see something like that happening to Radiohead, tbh.
I think Blackstar is being overestimated here. I think the Bowie death hype died a long time ago, and if they really want to reward him, Rock Album is there. AOTY would be too overblown and obvious.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Also what Mike91 said is true, if Lemonade wins, it's not just Beyoncé who gets awarded, it's all the producers/mixers/engineers, which are a lot to say the least.
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Member Since: 3/21/2012
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I think Anti could get a nom, it's one of the top reviewed albums of the year..
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Yeah, I think Bowie still has this one in the bag.
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Originally posted by ABeyBraith
I've been around stans for too long to be this naive  |
Girl he literally has Beyoncé in his signature.
I'm not sure I agree with his reasoning but you're clearly being overly testy toward what was otherwise a reasonable post.
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Member Since: 6/16/2006
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Also, Radiohead is more overdue for an AOTY win than Beyoncé is at this point. It won't matter though, I don't see either winning.
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Member Since: 11/2/2011
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Originally posted by OneAndOnly
All of this is true and I agree, but the matter of fact is that the Grammys are very hesitant in giving AOTY to albums with a long ass list of producers/engineers/mixers. The same reasons why channel orange, both Kendrick Lamar albums, BEYONCÉ among others didn't win AOTY. LEMONADE is an amazing album but because it has so many credits I think it's the least likely to win AOTY, even if it's the most deserving.
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If an album wins best Pop/Urban, do all those credited get a Grammy too or is it just AOTY?
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by M A R C
How do y'all know what is exactly going to happen? 
Judging by what's happened at the Grammys for the past few years, anything can happen. |
No ones claiming they can forsee the future 
They're just making educated guesses based on the information available to us now (those albums aren't in the top 5 of the year in terms of critical acclaim so it makes sense)
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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It's been over since Adele announced she was releasing an album, over a year ago for now I guess? Maybe less Idk for sure when she announced.
Anyway 25 will easily win.
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Member Since: 8/6/2012
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
Beck was one of the best reviewed album of its year, though.
If 25 is nominated, I wouldn't underestimate it for a win. Adele has become a heavy Grammy favorite over the years. The Grammys completely recognized her for 19, even going as far as to nominate her for "Hometown Glory" in Pop Female, when it didn't gain any traction in the US. They didn't even hesitate to nominate and reward her for a live version of a song in a pop category. She would be a name-check favorite, if nominated.
Beyoncé also has a good chance because unlike Adele, she has never won AOTY. People thought Beyoncé was snubbed, and she's a heavy favorite at the Grammys, too. Urban albums tend not to do well, but I also think people feel Beyoncé is legendary and has made a musical triumph with Lemonade. Plus, I feel that Lemonade is a lot more "safer" (if you will) then the sometimes raunchy Beyoncé.
Radiohead is the one I think people should fear, though. If nominated, this would be their FOURTH appearance in AOTY. The album is rock/alternative and a heavy critical favorite. It DOES remind me of Beck. Morning Phase was up for AOTY and became Beck's third nomination. There was an overdue factor. Plus it was up against a bunch of pop and urban albums. I could see something like that happening to Radiohead, tbh.
I think Blackstar is being overestimated here. I think the Bowie death hype died a long time ago, and if they really want to reward him, Rock Album is there. AOTY would be too overblown and obvious.
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This tea!  I love Rihanna, but I'll not be surprised If ANTI gets snubbed.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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It ended when Lemonade dropped 
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Member Since: 9/21/2010
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Yup theres only 10 albums that can be considered in the "short list" at the moment.in my opinion. But Unless Frank Ocean or some other major artist release something between now and September these are the likely contenders.
Adele - 25
Beyoncé - Lemonade
Carrie Underwood - Storyteller
David Bowie - BlackStar
Drake - VIEWS
Justin Bieber - Purpose
Kanye West - The Life of Pablo
Paul Simon - Stranger to Stranger
Radiohead - A Moon Shaped Pool
Rihanna - ANTI
Based on sales, cultural appeal, critics best of lists so far and previous Grammy history.
Id say the 5 contenders are from this list.
my prediction however:
Beyoncé
Drake
Adele
Radiohead
Paul Simon
Bey and Rih will compete for the slot with Bey having the advantage.
Drake would beat out Kanye for the Rap slot obviously.
With that lineup anybody can win. (except Drake).
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Member Since: 9/21/2010
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Originally posted by ABeyBraith
Sigh, I guess this needs explaining cause some of you don't get it.
Credits go to people even if they change one word of the song, if they have a little idea for a melody change, if they are present in the room while songs are being made they get a credit.
Around 45 people had a hand in creating Lemonade however Beyoncé was involved in every step of the process. An additional 15 people were given credits due to samples that were used, some were even shocked to receive them because of subtle similarities with a single line of lyrics.
Y'all love to throw shade and try it without actually doing the research or even having an understanding of how credits are distributed |
It doesnt need any explanation because no one is saying that she doesnt deserve it if she does win, but all those people that are credited will be walking away with a statue as well.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by kent
Beyonce won't submit anything for grammy consideration and i am here for it.
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If Beyonce does that.. 
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