I don't get why u r not Sansa stans ... her personality is growing so much like no one else
She practicaly won the fight
Sansa and Dany are the true Queens
Yeah the fact alone of northern lords declaring her Queen in the North is unrealistic.
It isn't. The Stark name is too important, the Northern houses are too loyal and set in their ways to EVER declare for a bastard. Sansa is the only one that can rule Winterfell.
Sansa is turning into Littlefinger, not Catelyn. I'm hoping Jon pulls her back in with the next episode, but she still keeps her wits.
She's honestly an amalgam of all the people she's been exposed to in the past few years. I see Cersei, the Tyrells, Littlefinger, all of them.
As someone pointed out, Cersei warned her to never love anyone but her future children. Her coldness and her brutal realism regarding Rickon make me feel like she may have taken that advice to heart.
I think Sansa really had no choice but to do what she did. If she would have told Jon about the reinforcements, even if he was 100% on board with it, it would have altered his battle strategy and it would have been palpable that the Stark forces were playing a battle of attrition and biding their time for... something. The best way to lay a trap for a savvy enemy is to make it so that the person laying the trap doesn't even know that's what they're doing. Furthermore, like someone else said, if they simply waited for the Vale reinforcements first, it would have been a disaster. In battle, things go wrong. Before it started, one of the last things I expected was for Jon, as the commander, to be one of the first lines of infantry
I also wonder what the effect of thinking your entire family is already dead and/or pledged in service to the wall has on someone... I'd imagine they won't grieve overly much for Rickon in the next episode, seeing as Jon believed he was dead until that letter iirc(?) And Sansa did until late last season, then made her peace again with it this season.
btw, am I the only person who literally thought he might die in this episode? I guess the show runners were aiming for suckers like me, but first with the Melisandre dialogue and then the trampling scene Rewatching now, 24+ hours later and I'm still blown away by the gritty realism of the battle directing. The part where he was in the middle of allied and enemy cavalry had me SHOOK, I could barely tell the difference between his men and Ramsays.
I think Sansa really had no choice but to do what she did. If she would have told Jon about the reinforcements, even if he was 100% on board with it, it would have altered his battle strategy and it would have been palpable that the Stark forces were playing a battle of attrition and biding their time for... something. The best way to lay a trap for a savvy enemy is to make it so that the person laying the trap doesn't even know that's what they're doing. Furthermore, like someone else said, if they simply waited for the Vale reinforcements first, it would have been a disaster. In battle, things go wrong. Before it started, one of the last things I expected was for Jon, as the commander, to be one of the first lines of infantry
I also wonder what the effect of thinking your entire family is already dead and/or pledged in service to the wall has on someone... I'd imagine they won't grieve overly much for Rickon in the next episode, seeing as Jon believed he was dead until that letter iirc(?) And Sansa did until late last season, then made her peace again with it this season.
btw, am I the only person who literally thought he might die in this episode? I guess the show runners were aiming for suckers like me, but first with the Melisandre dialogue and then the trampling scene Rewatching now, 24+ hours later and I'm still blown away by the gritty realism of the battle directing. The part where he was in the middle of allied and enemy cavalry had me SHOOK, I could barely tell the difference between his men and Ramsays.
Personally didn't think he was gonna die because of what Mel said about the lord of Light. Also yea the fighting scene was great Idk why others think it was boring I found the madness and prospective amazing
But she did let tons of men die to achieve that.
In the end, after all she’s been through, Sansa has lost that Stark nobility, let's not deny it. She’s spent years now with the Lannisters, Baelish, and the Boltons, and its changed her, not necessarily for the better. I believe this is exactly what Ramsay meant when he said that part of him is inside her now.
I don't think her father or even Catelyn would've watched someone get eaten alive and be like: "this is actually fun".
She wasn't 100% sure if Littlefinger would come through... the battle with Jon's army had to happen either way and men were going to die either way, heck more would have died if she didn't take action.
She hasn't lost her Stark nobility nor have her experiences changed her for the worse, she understands people better. I'm glad that a Stark is learning from the mistakes that her family has made before, too trusting, too honorable, too forward, too traditional.. and it all because they have always been Kings in the North... now that's been challenged, they need to adapt and Sansa has done that. And why should she not be colder, more upfront, more ruthless and protect herself from ever going through what she has been through...
Her father and mother never went though as much as she did, maybe her dad did to a certain degree but she has gone through so much more.... why would she not "enjoy" seeing her rapist being murdered, the guy who helped kill her family, the guy who took her childhood home away, the man who physically and mentally abused her? Her little smile at the end was just a small glimpse at her finally winning for once and for the right reasons.... she's not just going to go around have dogs kill random people for pleasure. plus she's always been faced with gore, back in season one she saw knights get killed brutally and she didn't turn away, she knew she had to observe that as a Lady and keep on going.
I kind of love that this battle was set up a a huge chess board, Rickon used as a pawn, Jon being the honorable knight, Ramsey as the other King, Davos as a bishop, Small Jon/Tormund as rook and literally Sansa as the Queen, the most powerful piece in the game who sneaked up on the king and defeated his forces....
TBH this wasn't a battle of bastards, it was Sansa vs her husband. Jon was just a small part of the overall battle, while he was very active as any knight would be, she was the big driving force. The episode could have had a better title, even the words of House Bolton would have done better, the show runners are giving Jon too much credit for this.
It isn't. The Stark name is too important, the Northern houses are too loyal and set in their ways to EVER declare for a bastard. Sansa is the only one that can rule Winterfell.
But her name is Bolton. Or is it Lannister? There are conflicting reports.
I'm just PRAYING that they keep Little Lyanna around and never let anything bad happen to her.
how do people even notice this
