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News: Tourists drag shark out of the water to take a Selfie
Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by sunny phoenix
the member meant that shark are dangerous.. lets not play with words...
the fact he cuts your arm and then leaves without eating u is actually very offending... like how bad am i taste that u dont want to fisnih me?!!  |
Girl please 
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Originally posted by Bloo
Yes it matters. When I was responding to someone who was saying that sharks would not hesitate to spread a person to death for food, then yes, it is very much relevant that most shark deaths are due to investigation bites after the shark has left due to lack of interest than if a shark is actually going for a kill.
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 @ dying from an investigation bite being better than dying from it tearing you apart when both results are still death. 
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Originally posted by cloudinthesky
@ dying from an investigation bite being better than dying from it tearing you apart when both results are still death. |
IKR 
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by cloudinthesky
@ dying from an investigation bite being better than dying from it tearing you apart when both results are still death. |
It's not about being ''better''. The point is that sharks aren't out to kill or eat you. That's why they only ''attack'', because they've mistaken you for prey.
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Member Since: 5/12/2012
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Originally posted by cloudinthesky
@ dying from an investigation bite being better than dying from it tearing you apart when both results are still death. |
When you're characterizing sharks as being ruthless predators that are thirsty for human blood, that detail matters. Also, if a shark is going for the kill then the number of shark deaths would be substantially larger than it is now...
There is survivor of great white shark attacks where the survival was scuba diving and was caught entirely in the shark's mouth (his entire upper body), about sixty feet under the surface of the water with no diving buddy, and then the shark lets him go and he manages to escape and survive in tact with only scars to tell of the story.
If that shark was going for the kill, you think he'd survive? I don't.
Oh, btw, that bite was an investigation bite. Yes, that detail does ****ing matter.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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So the mindset most of the defenders have is that the shark isn't worth saving because it's a predator?  so only herbivores are worth saving. That same mindset is why the eastern us is overrun with deer running into people cars all the time 
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It's all inconsequential, really.
Think of the sharks! OK?
Think of how they didn't know that that particular shark was unlikely to maul them! OK?
OR! Think of how they thought this was some sort of (admittedly idiotic) trophy of sorts by not knowing any better? They wouldn't have posed for a picture with a regular ass fish or one crab because they're not...killers? Dangerous?
This thread is dumb for not accounting for their - and judging by this thread, our - lack of education on the matter.
Ugh. This new ATRL environmentalist agenda 
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Member Since: 5/12/2012
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Originally posted by V3$$3L.
It's all inconsequential, really.
Think of the sharks! OK?
Think of how they didn't know that that particular shark was unlikely to maul them! OK?
OR! Think of how they thought this was some sort of admittedly idiotic trophy of sorts by not knowing any better? They wouldn't have posed for a picture with a regular ass fish or one crab because they're easy to come across.
This thread is dumb for not accounting for their - and judging by this thread, our - lack of education on the matter.
Ugh. The environmentalist agenda |
The men willingly dragged the shark into the water for a picture. You are doing the most to defend a blatant act of cruelty.
You know, people can sometimes be cruel and evil. Hence why we're the most violent and cruel species on the planet. It's okay to admit that without demonizing another species or insulting the education of a group of people (honestly, you'd have to be a complete moron to not think a fish in water needs to be in water to live—this is not about lack of education).
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Member Since: 3/25/2012
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Originally posted by Bloo
Context, boo. When sharks kill anywhere from 1-5 people a year on average, and there are hundreds of shark species.... Obviously, there are some species that are going to appear more.
For instance, shark attacks by the Greenland Shark do not happen because Greenland Sharks are never found swimming in the same waters as humans. At large, sharks are not that concerning. But if I were to be asked which shark is more concerning, or which shark I'd rather not be in a tank with, between a Bull Shark and a Whale Shark, I am most definitely going to avoid the Bull Shark (given it has the highest testosterone levels of any animal on the planet). However, that still doesn't change the fact that bull sharks don't kill enough people each year to make them that big of a threat. Should you be wary of them and respect them? Absolutely. They're a wild animal. They're not harmless. But, you can't act like they're savages. That's inappropriate.
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Gerl, I get it. Not all sharks are savages.
Some are though. You seem to love sharks so obv you know the differences between them. Kudos. But most people don't and you can't really expect them to know everything you do. If the average person sees a shark, they are going to assume the worst and run the other way regardless of what kind of shark you think it is.
But again, thank you for the education. I learned something new today. I'm still gonna have to assume the worst if I see a shark in the water though
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Originally posted by Artemisia
Would they? Cause I see a bunch of people calling them monkeys and ******s in the comments of the video. I sincerely doubt the same would happen if they were white.
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Yes, they would. Of course, without the racial slurs, but people would be mad at this (and rightfully so). It's the internet, remember?. SJW and all.
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Originally posted by cloudinthesky
Gerl, I get it. Not all sharks are savages.
Some are though. You seem to love sharks so obv you know the differences between them. Kudos. But most people don't and you can't really expect them to know everything you do. If the average person sees a shark, they are going to assume the worst and run the other way regardless of what kind of shark you think it is. |
I entirely agree. But, you don't need to be as educated on sharks as I am to know not to drag one on a ****ing beach for a selfie.
If I see a shark in the water (which I have), I promptly go the other way. This isn't about "trust" with a shark. It's about having a respect for life to the point where you don't drag a shark that isn't bothering you for a ****ing selfie.
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Originally posted by Bloo
The men willingly dragged the shark into the water for a picture. You are doing the most to defend a blatant act of cruelty. |
Which I'm sure they did because they viewed it as some sort of achievement. A triumph over the dominant species.
They wouldn't have wrangled an innocuous animal out of water had you been there to teach them the ins and outs of sharkdom. Or had they known there's another kind of shark that's...more of a pacifist.
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Originally posted by V3$$3L.
It's all inconsequential, really.
Think of the sharks! OK?
Think of how they didn't know that that particular shark was unlikely to maul them! OK?
OR! Think of how they thought this was some sort of (admittedly idiotic) trophy of sorts by not knowing any better? They wouldn't have posed for a picture with a regular ass fish or one crab because they're not...killers? Dangerous?
This thread is dumb for not accounting for their - and judging by this thread, our - lack of education on the matter.
Ugh. This new ATRL environmentalist agenda |
ALL OF THIS
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Originally posted by Loghen
Yes, they would. Of course, without the racial slurs, but people would be mad at this (and rightfully so). It's the internet, remember?. SJW and all.
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Why would they use racial slurs to condem the black tourist but not the hypothetical white ones
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Member Since: 5/12/2012
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Originally posted by V3$$3L.
Which I'm sure they did because they viewed it as some sort of achievement. A triumph over the dominant species.
They wouldn't have wrangled an innocuous animal out of water had you been there to teach them the ins and outs of sharkdom. Or had they known there's another kind of shark that's...more of a pacifist.
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Never try to be a lawyer if this is the only defense you can come up with (albeit, there isn't much to work with).
People make trophies out of deer, rabbits, and geese and somehow this is only because it's seen as a dangerous animal. K, sis.
People are naturally a cruel species that think very little of other life. The sooner you accept this, the better.
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Member Since: 3/25/2012
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Originally posted by Bloo
I entirely agree. But, you don't need to be as educated on sharks as I am to know not to drag one on a ****ing beach for a selfie.
If I see a shark in the water (which I have), I promptly go the other way. This isn't about "trust" with a shark. It's about having a respect for life to the point where you don't drag a shark that isn't bothering you for a ****ing selfie.
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Oh, I agree.  That's what I said in my original post. 
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by Artemisia
Would they? Cause I see a bunch of people calling them monkeys and ******s in the comments of the video. I sincerely doubt the same would happen if they were white.
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Yes 100%, most of the comments would be 'typical white people', 'an example of white privilege', 'white trash' etc.
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Sad, but you'll still eat fish.
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