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Discussion: Why does ATRL hate fem gays?
Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by ThugginGrande
For the last time, being attracted to masculine guys isn't homophobic, misogynistic, oppressive, discriminatory, what have you. As a man attracted to men, it shouldn't be surprising that I'm attracted to masculinity. I have no problem with feminine gays - we can be friends - but if I wasn't turned off by femininity, then I would hook up with girls. Straight girls not being attracted to feminine guys is a given. For some reason, they're allowed to have standards, but gay guys aren't. Apparently we're just supposed to be willing to stick our dicks in anything with a hole or we're disgusting, self-hating bigots.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by ThugginGrande
For the last time, being attracted to masculine guys isn't homophobic, misogynistic, oppressive, discriminatory, what have you. As a man attracted to men, it shouldn't be surprising that I'm attracted to masculinity. I have no problem with feminine gays - we can be friends - but if I wasn't turned off by femininity, then I would hook up with girls. Straight girls not being attracted to feminine guys is a given. For some reason, they're allowed to have standards, but gay guys aren't. Apparently we're just supposed to be willing to stick our dicks in anything with a hole or we're disgusting, self-hating bigots.
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This guy knows what he's talking about!!!
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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what is the difference between a fem gay and a masculine gay though? and i think it's unfair to say fem gays are too loud and bitchy because not everyone is like that. don't you get fem and masc gays that are loud and bitchy?
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 4,325
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Originally posted by ThugginGrande
For the last time, being attracted to masculine guys isn't homophobic, misogynistic, oppressive, discriminatory, what have you. As a man attracted to men, it shouldn't be surprising that I'm attracted to masculinity. I have no problem with feminine gays - we can be friends - but if I wasn't turned off by femininity, then I would hook up with girls. Straight girls not being attracted to feminine guys is a given. For some reason, they're allowed to have standards, but gay guys aren't. Apparently we're just supposed to be willing to stick our dicks in anything with a hole or we're disgusting, self-hating bigots.
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Sweetheart no one is telling u to be attracted to feminine guys. You got it all wrong.
You can be attracted to and be with masc gays, fem gays, trans, or anyone else you want. It's your life. All you can't do is basically shame fem guys, and that's the point here.
We are calling out people who shame fem guys, people who see this as something bizarre or wrong, treat them like trash and all of this. If you don't do that, there's no reason to be mad about it.
Oh, and by putting "no fems" is a type of homophobia just like putting "no blacks, no asians, no latinos" is racism. You can be with anyone and have your own preferences but there's no need to put that.
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Member Since: 1/4/2014
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Originally posted by SpinThatShhh
Jealousy, misogyny.
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Excuse me
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Member Since: 3/2/2014
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i guess you love what you dont have
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by Su-Barbie-A
They get killed because they are less "masculine" and those are facts
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No one is denying that, but anyone who has the urge to kill someone because they are less "masculine" seriously has a problem ![Bibliotheque](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/atrlers/biblio_zps23dff242.gif)
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Originally posted by Scene
So if someone finds masculine guys attractive then they must think the way you've just demonstrated? That's ridiculous. I get what you are saying though but you need to realise that people just find different kinds of people attractive. Growing up in the early 2000s, men were always shown as being straight/masculine. I find guys attractive so obviously what I'd find attractive is the type of men I used to fancy as I was growing up. If that makes sense...
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You are aware that fem men will never be shown as the ideal or the type of guy you should strive for.
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Member Since: 3/25/2012
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Originally posted by Burqa
Excuse me
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Member Since: 8/6/2012
Posts: 22,977
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Originally posted by Su-Barbie-A
The whole idea of "men have to be men" or "If I wanted to date a fem gay then I would date a female", that's stupid and ignorant, it comes with the same idea that men shouldn't cry, they have to be tough, they think with their heads, etc, things that are so archaic and lead to destructive behaviours in men.
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Where did I say that men have to be men? I just said that they have to be masculine for me to sleep with them. Not sleeping with them and thinking they're wrong for who they are are totally different things.
It's like saying you're sexist because you don't sleep with girls.
As for the second sentence, I said that from a personal perspective. I respect whatever makes anyone find feminine gays attractive, but I can't find it myself.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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I mean, ''stanning'' for a female pop singer and obsessing over that person wouldn't ever be seen ''masucline'' in this society in the first place. Y'all need to stop lying to yourselves and get real. ![skull](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/faces/skull_zpsksni5fmm.gif)
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Member Since: 2/2/2009
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I'm not gay. I just **** guys.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Because most of the time they're too dramatic, attention-seeking and "in your face" with their personality and it can be off-putting.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Pharaoh
Why are gay men always trying to prove themselves to be masculine? If you're trying to appeal to straight men who are homophobes, forget it, if they hate gays, they'll hate you.
You're still a homosexual man on a music forum where you're obsessed with a female icon/musician and discuss that, hot guys etc. All of which make the actual ''masculine type'', that you claimed to be so badly, cringe.
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This post is just dumb. Sorry but this is so delusional. Yes I'm a gay guy on a music forum and I like some female musicians, but that doesn't mean I'm feminine and I'm trying to prove myself to masculine guys. Maybe you should just ACCEPT that not everyone (especially on here) is a fem gay. The narrow-mindedness in that post is just as bad as the narrow-mindedness of homophobia.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Pharaoh
I mean, ''stanning'' for a female pop singer and obsessing over that person wouldn't ever be seen ''masucline'' in this society in the first place. Y'all need to stop lying to yourselves and get real. ![skull](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/faces/skull_zpsksni5fmm.gif)
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Right? ![skull](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/faces/skull_zpsksni5fmm.gif)
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Member Since: 10/30/2011
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Originally posted by NX127
I'm gay, meaning, attracted to same sex. And with my sex being "male", it's beyond normal that I'm attracted to masculinity.
In other words, with all respect to feminine gays, transgenders, cross dressers, etc. but if I wanted femininity in my partner, I would go **** girls.
If that sounds ignorant to you, "embrace your femininity or you hate yourself xD" really is not any better.
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Being attracted to a sex is not the same thing as being attracted to a socially constructed notion of gender.
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Member Since: 8/9/2012
Posts: 18,572
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I don't know how this thread became a discussion about attraction, because that's not what I thought the OP was trying to discuss, but anyway.
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Originally posted by ThugginGrande
I have no problem with feminine gays - we can be friends - but if I wasn't turned off by femininity, then I would hook up with girls. Straight girls not being attracted to feminine guys is a given. For some reason, they're allowed to have standards, but gay guys aren't. Apparently we're just supposed to be willing to stick our dicks in anything with a hole or we're disgusting, self-hating bigots.
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This is an extremely disingenuous thing to say. Fem gays =/= girls. Going by your logic, you should find masculine girls really hot since your main attraction is masculinity and not gender.
Also, many people in this thread keep talking about "femininity" but that's a subjective term and none of you are being specific on what you actually consider feminine. What are some feminine traits that you find unattractive?
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Misogyny and lack of self-love. The stereotyping throughout this thread is also disgusting. ![Bibliotheque](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/atrlers/biblio_zps23dff242.gif)
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Member Since: 3/25/2012
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This may be slightly off topic since this wasn't the original intent of the OP but, my question is:
Is this the same as the whole "racist vs. preference" debate? Like, are you fem-phobic if you refuse to date a fem gay simply because they're fem, ignoring the rest of their personality? Does it count as just a preference if you prefer masc men but don't flat out reject all fem gays, or is it still fem-phobia? Where do we draw the lineT? Is saying "I don't hate fem gays, I'm just not attracted them" the same as "I don't hate blacks and asians, I'm just not attracted to them"?
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Because MOST users on here are like that in person. Self Hate
Some users on here wish they had the confidence to be themselves and don't realize it Jealousy
Now for the guys who aren't attracted to fem guys, etc
IT IS OKAY. We all have our preferences and our "dream guy" and the characteristics that come with that.
What's not okay is to belittle them.
Empower each other not tear each other. The gay community shouldn't be a Stan war between masc and fem.
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