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Discussion: Why is so hard to accept that religion is a problem?
Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Why is so hard to accept that religion is a problem?
I mean if you look at the problems that our community has like homophobia and the lack of laws for protection you realise that the problem begins with Religion. Wether is Catholicism or Islam or any other, they all teach how our way of living is wrong and is punished by their god, they work to make sure we never get the rights to get married and be free. In fact, if you look at it, most countries in which being gay is punished are very religious. In my country union civils were denied thanks to a high number of very religious congressman. So why is so hard to accept that all of these religions need to evolve? Why is that they seem to be untouchable and that one cannot criticize it or otherwise you may get called a *insertreligion*phobic?
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Member Since: 1/1/2013
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People have been brainwashed and told to believe these things for a long, long, long time.
I hate religion and everything brought with it but I'm reluctant to insult those who follow a religion or generalise because despite my personal views of religion, the religious identity of someone is part of who they are and I wish to respect that.
I think there's a distinction there that many don't see.
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Member Since: 2/5/2014
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This is a slippery slope and I say this as someone no longer religious.
Non religious individuals can perpetuate hate too, and clearly not all people who practice religion are hateful harmers.
So what does that leave left as a common factor?
People in general.
Religion can fuel things, but to say it's an outright problem when so many things go wrong even where religion isn't near it...
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Religion has been here for millenniums so it's hard to shake it off. But it is a problem.
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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People want to believe there's something else, someone looking after them, a bigger purpose. Religious gives them that, while also making them susceptible to being controlled/influenced by the religious institutions.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Because hate and ignorance was not created from religion. Even if you get rid of religion, it won't change the fact homophobia would still exist.
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Member Since: 5/21/2009
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By this logic, then we need to accept that white people are a problem. If we look at problems like racism and systematic oppression, then we realize the problem begins with white people.
But let me guess, that would "reverse racist" or "generalizing"...

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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by NE.
By this logic, then we need to accept that white people are a problem. If we look at problems like racism and systematic oppression, then we realize the problem begins with white people.
But let me guess, that would "reverse racist" or "generalizing"...

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Because black people are all saints who never commit any crimes. People are people.

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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Quote:
Originally posted by NE.
By this logic, then we need to accept that white people are a problem. If we look at problems like racism and systematic oppression, then we realize the problem begins with white people.
But let me guess, that would "reverse racist" or "generalizing"...

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I feel like the OP insulted me,and im sad. 
#reported
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Originally posted by Harly
Because hate and ignorance was not created from religion. Even if you get rid of religion, it won't change the fact homophobia would still exist.
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yet the less religious countries are almost always the less homophobic ones. amazing coincidence huh?
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Member Since: 1/23/2011
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people are the problem
if there hadn't been any religion, people would still find something to fight about
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Quote:
Originally posted by NE.
By this logic, then we need to accept that white people are a problem. If we look at problems like racism and systematic oppression, then we realize the problem begins with white people.
But let me guess, that would "reverse racist" or "generalizing"...

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I feel like the OP insulted me,and im sad. 
#reported
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Member Since: 10/6/2010
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Quote:
Originally posted by NE.
By this logic, then we need to accept that white people are a problem. If we look at problems like racism and systematic oppression, then we realize the problem begins with white people.
But let me guess, that would "reverse racist" or "generalizing"...

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Except that's not the case. Maybe in America, sure, but this is the world we're talking about where religion has gotten millions of people killed simply due to baseless beliefs.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Religion is a problem, but they ALL are. It's not just Muslims, it's Christians, etc.
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Member Since: 4/22/2009
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Cognitive dissonance.
When you are inculcated from birth that the world is a certain way and it is apart of your identity, it is nearly impossible to admit there could be flaws with it.
The defenders are giving me "But racism doesn't exist!!!!11!1" teas.
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Member Since: 5/13/2012
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Religion is trash and I'm not going to respect it or support it in the slightest.
But if you chose to practice it then its your life
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Quote:
Originally posted by NE.
By this logic, then we need to accept that white people are a problem. If we look at problems like racism and systematic oppression, then we realize the problem begins with white people.
But let me guess, that would "reverse racist" or "generalizing"...

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Get the **** outta here, how is that relevant to the thread?

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Member Since: 2/5/2014
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Originally posted by dreeam
yet the less religious countries are almost always the less homophobic ones. amazing coincidence huh?
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But not 100% of them, so what does that also tell you? Clearly homophobia isn't just rooted in religious text and it will exist without religions.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Quote:
Originally posted by NE.
By this logic, then we need to accept that white people are a problem. If we look at problems like racism and systematic oppression, then we realize the problem begins with white people.
But let me guess, that would "reverse racist" or "generalizing"...

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Nope. That would be true, and lot should be changed. And I'm white.
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