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Discussion: Why are you supporting trump?
Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Does anyone else think Trump/Hillary is like The Hunger Games' Snow/Coin? 
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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I was really hoping for Bernie to be honest, I'm mostly happy about Hillary though, I'm not exactly a huge fan of her since I worry that she might not do everything she promised and idk if we can trust her. and I don't care that she's a woman, I'm not going to vote for someone because of that, I want what's best for our country. Also Hillary worries me because I don't think she will keep us peaceful like I think Bernie would. Hilary's way better then Trump though, he seems really hateful, and I don't like that  He wouldn't be a good president, the world would become so hateful and violent and everyone would hate us  he was a good TV host though. I mean I could say more about Trump, but nothing you haven't all heard before and I don't exactly like saying mean things. So yeah, I wish it was Bernie, but I'm ok with Hillary.
Kinda wish I could vote, but I have to wait until the 2020 election 
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Jan
I don't know, I haven't heard of him saying anything about Mexican judges so I won't relate.
What I can relate to is his official policies on immigration which are pretty moderate and reasonable in my opinion.
I'm also not hypersenstive on political correctness and actually believe that it's a wrong and flawed concept that should be abandoned.
I haven't heard Trump saying anything bad about Black people really and there is plenty of Black Trump supporters. Ironically, it's usually anti-Trump protestors that are aggressive.
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It's not about being politically correct though. That is such an annoying strawman arguement
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by Icarus
Hillary's corrupt!11111 She's a liar and a criminal!!!11111 ANyone but Hillary!111 At least Trump is real!111
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Member Since: 9/15/2007
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Trump is a puppet who is doing goo this because he is bored. He is a racist idiot who says things because he knows his sheepish followers will hang on his every word.
It's sad really, people follow him because they think he's edgy and will bring change to the world, when really, the only change he'll bring is a nuclear holocaust to the United States.
How can anyone vote for someone with no extensive political history? And also who says Mexico will pay for this non-existent wall?
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Member Since: 5/15/2009
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Despite what anyone says about trump, I do see a point in most of what he says. He does have a big heart and truly wants to help the American people. Anything he said about illegal immigrants was about ILLEGAL immigrants. They broke the law, took advantage of the system, and it does hurt our country, so I'm not sure why anyone would support such ILLEGAL activity. Anything he said about Muslims... There is a clear issue with their religion assimilating to western society, and we are screwed if we continue to be weak like we currently are. Obama REFUSES to recognize the issue, yet has no problem attacking Christianity for whatever actions they made thousands of years ago. Right now we live in a country that is more concerned with offending people, rather than actually keeping our people safe, and that is very concerning. When it comes to trade with other countries, it is true that they are taking advantage of us. The clintons were huge supporters of agreements such as NAFTA which put thousands out of jobs and completely screwed our economy. We do need change, badly.
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Member Since: 6/7/2011
Posts: 1,480
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Originally posted by EveryoneLovesMe
I was really hoping for Bernie to be honest, I'm mostly happy about Hillary though, I'm not exactly a huge fan of her since I worry that she might not do everything she promised and idk if we can trust her. and I don't care that she's a woman, I'm not going to vote for someone because of that, I want what's best for our country. Also Hillary worries me because I don't think she will keep us peaceful like I think Bernie would. Hilary's way better then Trump though, he seems really hateful, and I don't like that  He wouldn't be a good president, the world would become so hateful and violent and everyone would hate us  he was a good TV host though. I mean I could say more about Trump, but nothing you haven't all heard before and I don't exactly like saying mean things. So yeah, I wish it was Bernie, but I'm ok with Hillary.
Kinda wish I could vote, but I have to wait until the 2020 election 
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If you're worried about Clinton not doing everything she promised during the campaign as President, then Bernie Sanders should have been one of the last major candidates you supported next to Trump. While they may sound great, most of his policy ideas are fantastical for a country of over 300 million people and would have had virtually no chance of ever being implemented even in a watered-down form if he could have won the Democratic nomination and Presidency.
The truth is that no American President is able to implement everything they promised during the campaign. Presidential campaigns are rife with puffery and ridiculous ideas that have no chance of being implemented in 4-8 years (see Trump's wall and Sander's free college for all). Presidents are heavily constrained by their roles in the Executive and usually have to tweak their policy plans significantly to get them through Congress.
A Clinton Presidency will mostly be a small, incremental change from the Obama Presidency. I do believe that Clinton and Obama have slightly different foreign policy objectives. So, while Clinton isn't nearly as hawkish as some have made out, it is smart to pick up on a bit of distinction between the two there. Obama has a very cerebral approach to international conflicts and sees little value in continuing to dump American money and military power into a region like the Middle East where he doesn't currently see a strong future. He would rather we turn an eye to Asia. Clinton has a more traditional view that believes the U.S. should take a leading role in major world conflicts. This doesn't necessarily mean she's hawkish in the traditional Republican sense and agrees with continuing to spend obscene amounts of money on defense.
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Originally posted by Disco
Despite what anyone says about trump, I do see a point in most of what he says. He does have a big heart and truly wants to help the American people. Anything he said about illegal immigrants was about ILLEGAL immigrants. They broke the law, took advantage of the system, and it does hurt our country, so I'm not sure why anyone would support such ILLEGAL activity. Anything he said about Muslims... There is a clear issue with their religion assimilating to western society, and we are screwed if we continue to be weak like we currently are. Obama REFUSES to recognize the issue, yet has no problem attacking Christianity for whatever actions they made thousands of years ago. Right now we live in a country that is more concerned with offending people, rather than actually keeping our people safe, and that is very concerning. When it comes to trade with other countries, it is true that they are taking advantage of us. The clintons were huge supporters of agreements such as NAFTA which put thousands out of jobs and completely screwed our economy. We do need change, badly.
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In precisely what way has President Obama attacked Christianity? Be specific and please do not spout some hyperbolic garbage about how Christians have lost religious liberties because we increasingly have greater rights for LGBT people. The U.S. is the most powerful country in the world and Christianity remains the dominant religion. No one's freedom to exercise their religious beliefs is infringed upon by being asking someone to share a bathroom with a trans person or to bake a damn cake. The "religious freedom" nonsense that the Religious Right is peddling is that last gasps of a generation who realize their privileges are waning.
Also, I hope you realize that there are entire American industries that would fold without migrant workers who are undocumented. In many of these industries, wages have been stagnant for decades and are not competitive enough for most working class Americans. Undocumented workers have stepped into these jobs and are mostly paying taxes without receiving the same benefits citizens would receive. So, I would also greatly appreciate hearing some more in-depth examples of how undocumented workers are hurting our country that's more than mere xenophobia.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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He's going to make America great again.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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I'm voting for Trump because I am excited to be sent to a conversion camp. Also, I want all of my friends to get deported and for the racial gap in this country to be widened! It's God's will!
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by RobbyRayy24
I'm voting for Trump because I am excited to be sent to a conversion camp. Also, I want all of my friends to get deported and for the racial gap in this country to be widened! It's God's will!
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OT: it's interesting to see all of y'all's opinions
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
Posts: 9,393
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Originally posted by Bloo
Saying a judge can't do his job because of his Mexican heritage is racist. Don't even try to say otherwise. Wanting to have a "Blacks vs. Whites" season of a TV show you created is racist. I could keep going but I doubt you'll pay attention.
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"Jan" doesn't know about these things because he, like 90% of all these other ATRLers trolling for Trump, is not from the U.S. He lives in Poland, Slovakia, or Croatia (I forget where exactly and don't care to check anyway). There are people in this thread who support him but who live in Brazil, Japan, New Zealand, the UK and other countries.
They don't know what we Blacks and Latinos go through in this country and the damage that the Donald's rhetoric has caused to race and ethnic relations. But to them it's all about the kiis.
The funny thing is that these individuals would jump at the first chance to come the U.S. and stay here illegally without a question, thereby becoming part of the man issue that Trump is supposedly fighting against.
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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Originally posted by Disco
Despite what anyone says about trump, I do see a point in most of what he says. He does have a big heart and truly wants to help the American people. Anything he said about illegal immigrants was about ILLEGAL immigrants. They broke the law, took advantage of the system, and it does hurt our country, so I'm not sure why anyone would support such ILLEGAL activity. Anything he said about Muslims... There is a clear issue with their religion assimilating to western society, and we are screwed if we continue to be weak like we currently are. Obama REFUSES to recognize the issue, yet has no problem attacking Christianity for whatever actions they made thousands of years ago. Right now we live in a country that is more concerned with offending people, rather than actually keeping our people safe, and that is very concerning. When it comes to trade with other countries, it is true that they are taking advantage of us. The clintons were huge supporters of agreements such as NAFTA which put thousands out of jobs and completely screwed our economy. We do need change, badly.
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Instead of regurgitating garbage that you heard on Hannity or the Rush Limbaugh show, can you please provide evidence of Obama EVER attacking Christianity? Evidence of our country being in any way weaker than others? Receipts, please.
We do NOT need the kind of divisive, xenophobic, and foolishly ethnocentric "change" that Trump and his minions want to bring. It is not gonna do anything good for our country.

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