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Discussion: Hollywood is flopping
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2016 is seemingly off to a stellar start, with box office revenue up 3.4 percent from last year (at the time of writing). That early success has been boosted by expected money-printing machines (“Captain America: Civil War”) and breakout hits that were much bigger than originally anticipated (“Zootopia,” “The Jungle Book,” and “Deadpool”). But outside a handful of blockbusters, this year’s box office is doing extremely poorly. If we eliminate the movies that have made over $300 million this year (of which there are currently five, including the costly “Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice”), the studios have taken in just $2.66 billion so far.
That might sound like nothing to sneeze at, but it represents a massive decline from 2015, when just three movies had crossed the three-century mark by the end of May. Outside the top tier, there was still $3.2 billion in money to go around. That marks a massive 26 percent drop off in the kind of moderate hits on which Hollywood used to be built.
[b[It gets even worse the further back you go in time: In 2014, no movie grossed over $300 million in the first five months of the year, while the profits were spread pretty evenly across the board. At a time when “The LEGO Movie” and “Winter Soldier” topped the box office charts, the year-to-date total amassed $4.1 billion, which is 54 percent larger than the comparatively paltry 2016 total cited above.[/b]
While an increasingly small number of movies are making all the money, the industry is witnessing a meteoric rate of flops: Last weekend’s “Alice Through the Looking Glass,” the follow-up to Tim Burton’s 2010 Lewis Carroll adaptation, took in just $26 million in three days. That’s less than its predecessor (which ended with a $337 million haul) made in a single day. Forbes’ Scott Mendelson estimates that the sequel will tap out at $90 million domestically (even that seems optimistic given its poor reception), which would be a 73 percent decline between the two films. As Mendelson notes, “Looking Glass” could become the “first sequel to earn $200 million less domestic than its predecessor.”
The James Bobin-directed film, however, is just the latest film this year to be left to die by audiences. In the past five months, movies as diverse as “The Divergent Series: Allegiant,” “Huntsman: Winter’s War,” “Gods of Egypt,” “Jane Got a Gun,” “Zoolander 2,” and “Whiskey Tango Foxtrot” have all tanked at the box office. “The Bronze,” starring Melissa Rauch of “The Big Bang Theory,” earned a measly per-theater average of $336 in its opening weekend, one of the lowest ever. Just four movies that have played in more than 1,000 theaters have done worse.
The industry, though, must be getting used to this. When it opened in 2,333 theaters last August, headlines boasted the near-historic failure of Zac Efron’s EDM movie, “We Are Your Friends.” After its pitiful $1.7 million debut, the film claimed the fourth-worst opening weekend ever for a movie of its size.
But in the next month, two movies would surpass its Efron in box office failure—both on the same weekend. Jon M. Chu’s live-action remake of “Jem and the Holograms” and the Bill Murray-starring “Rock the Kasbah” earned a respective $570 and $758 per theater the weekend of October 23rd. If every theater that screened “Jem and the Holograms” showed the movie just four times a day during its opening weekend (which is a conservative estimate), that means less than six people attended each showtime.
The fact that a major studio release was basically playing to empty theaters across the country is the tip of the iceberg: In 2015, 41 movies ended their runs as box office bombs. That rate of financial failure registered a 28 percent increase over the year prior. It was also the worst total since 2011, the year of notorious duds like “Mars Needs Moms” and “The Green Lantern.”
That trend doesn’t show signs of slowing down: This weekend will see the release of “Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows,” which is projected to earn just $27 million in its first three days. That’s a major drop off from its 2014 predecessor, which took in a heftier-than-expected $65 million in its opening weekend(en route to a $191 million total). If “Out of the Shadows” meets expectations this weekend and follows the same multiplier as its predecessor, it will max out at $79 million, over $100 million less than the earlier edition.
Similar fates await “Neighbors: Sorority Rising” and “X-Men: Apocalypse,” tepidly reviewed sequels that are vastly underperforming out of the gates.
The summer season remains full of expensive question marks: David Yates’ “The Legend of Tarzan,” featuring Margot Robbie and Alexander Skarsgard, and the video game adaptation “Warcraft” (which is already earning extremely negative reviews) have flop written all over them. There’s also the remake of “Ben-Hur,” starring Jack Huston, an untested star most widely known for his role on TV’s “Boardwalk Empire,” and “Star Trek: Beyond,” whose release has been mired by some suspiciously iffy trailers. (Certainly, Paul Feig’s all-female “Ghostbusters” reboot knows a thing or two about that.)
Meanwhile, there have also been high-profile reshoots on David Ayer’s “Suicide Squad”—allegedly to “lighten the film’s tone”—and “Rogue One.” Starring Felicity Jones, recent reports have indicated that Disney is unhappy with director Gareth Edwards’ cut of the “Star Wars” spinoff. Coming so soon after last year’s rehaul on the abysmal “Fantastic Four” reboot—which has the dubious recognition of finishing with one of the worst-ever grosses for a superhero movie—that’s a very bad sign.
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It's been flopping for a few years now. Louisiana started to take over now it's Atlanta
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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How about they make better movies that are worth the ticket? 
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Not everything can be the box office savior that is Star Wars.
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Canada, Louisiana, Australia, have been getting all the film/tv. Canada gives such a HUGE tax break that it kinda pisses me off. I hate when Americans will film in Canada, get major tax breaks and the setting won't even take place in Canada, it'll take place somewhere in the states. It pisses me off because I feel like we are being taken advantage of (in not a good way)
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Member Since: 3/24/2012
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It's sad that the only kind of movies that do well at the box office are franchises. That's overall lead to a complete lack of interesting films being made hence everyone going to TV like Netflix. Hollywood needs A MAJOR reboot as a whole, like get rid of the old men who have had the same jobs for the last 40 years who don't know how to create things that are fresh, new and relatable.
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Who asked for this movie though? I've never heard anyone say "Gee, I hope they make a sequel to that Alice in Wonderland film". 
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It makes sense. Only one movie with Shakira, and of course it was a global hit.
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Originally posted by imabadkid
It's sad that the only kind of movies that do well at the box office are franchises. That's overall lead to a complete lack of interesting films being made hence everyone going to TV like Netflix. Hollywood needs A MAJOR reboot as a whole, like get rid of the old men who have had the same jobs for the last 40 years who don't know how to create things that are fresh, new and relatable.
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I agree but from the looks of things, franchises aren't going anywhere anytime soon.
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There are simply too many franchise and sequel/prequel movies.
Hollywood needs more movies with originality and unique stories, characters etc.
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Not every studio can have consistency like Marvel Studios where trendsetting happens
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Nobody is asking for half the movies they are making. So I'm not surprised.
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The movies they're making are entirely too expensive.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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If Hollywood stopped making 100000 sequels, remakes and reboots that nobody asked for in the first place and who almost all get critically panned maybe they would make more money?
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Fantastic Beasts and Rouge One are coming!

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Originally posted by vuelve88
It makes sense. Only one movie with Shakira, and of course it was a global hit.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by Feanor
There are simply too many franchise and sequel/prequel movies.
Hollywood needs more movies with originality and unique stories, characters etc.
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Yup, everything seems stale
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