Originally posted by Ryan

It's too late for all of these well written (minus the lack of formatting) essays.

Originally posted by jgorny

then she should've not said that. i mean, then what is the point of democracy? what is the point of having a government that ignores the people.

Originally posted by Eros

This has no benefit at all towards a general election where A SUPREME COURT NOMINATION IS ALSO AT STAKE! Like if Sanders truly wanted his progressive policies to pass why do all of this and potentially end up with a Republican like Trump in the white house where he'd be appointing these vacancies and future vacancies to come (cuz some of them are really old tbh)?? He has lost, this has been the reality for a while now.

Its just goes to show what kind of person Bernie is tho, yet his supporters can't see through it!

Also this doesn't have anything to do with me thinking Hillary can't take Trump in a GE. I 100% think she has this. It's mostly about Sanders being a sore loser!

Originally posted by Eros

smh, i swear! i could sit here and write up multiple essays with facts about all of this and ya'll would still ignore it and go on with your baseless and incorrect "facts", so its pointless.

Originally posted by heckinglovato

A lot of this is really accurate.

I'm sorry, guys, but you walked into the presidential primary expecting nothing but an inevitable win for Hillary (which is happening). You're completely refusing the idea that she got challenged by another person whom people liked, respected and trusted. You think Hillary somehow 'deserves' this, when, she really just has to work for it (which she did, and she did a good job). You're taking party loyalty over what the people are trying to voice; the truth is, nearly half of the Democratic Party, and almost half of the states in the union, voted for a 74 year-old socialist Jew from Vermont who wasn't a Democrat up until a couple of months ago over Hillary Clinton. Clearly, there's a frustration with the system and that's a platform that needs to be spoken about and worked on. Yes, he lost the nomination to Hillary Clinton and she deserves every single credit for running that strong campaign, but, his message is not losing and it has been permanently stamped as a signature in the hearts of millions; people want to see change in the government, they want big money out of politics, they want transparency, they want a lot of things and I don't think we need to be throwing tantrums and someone who raised all of these issues, got the younger base involved, and nearly half of the Democratic Party on board (despite not being a Democrat for 99% of his life, being a 74 year-old socialist from Vermont) just because you were registered Democrat longer than he was. It's shallow, it's materialistic, there are other things you could be thinking about and working on.

Originally posted by jgorny

I am not trying to be delusional. I was just hurt by what she said because it just seems she disregarded the voters in the states that haven't voted yet. it's so important to be able to vote and imagine a candidate on the news saying that kind of stuff make you feel worthless and not good enough to vote.

Originally posted by @michael

The constant sanctimoniousness of some people in this thread has got to go 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻

Originally posted by Ryan

My eyes were glazing over. I legit was all "omg I'm scrolling and there's still so much more" *swipe closes Safari*

Paragraphs matter, people. Thanks.

Originally posted by jgorny

like me?

Originally posted by heckinglovato

Nah, I'm sure you'd get applause from people who are "so SICK of Bernie ", people who think "the progressive movement has gotta go ", who believe "Bernie is just as bad as Trump ", who claim "Bernie keeps thinking too big and saying things that will never happen " and that "he's not a real Democrat, considering we've been registered longer than he was ".

Clearly you're speaking up about the #1 priorities to the American people, how DARE Bernard be a Democrat less than you were? Clearly he's as bad as Trump (if not worse tbh), he is just not qualified to be president. laugh:

Originally posted by jgorny

then she should've not said that. i mean, then what is the point of democracy? what is the point of having a government that ignores the people.

Originally posted by heckinglovato

Nah, I'm sure you'd get applause from people who are "so SICK of Bernie ", people who think "the progressive movement has gotta go ", who believe "Bernie is just as bad as Trump ", who claim "Bernie keeps thinking too big and saying things that will never happen " and that "he's not a real Democrat, considering we've been registered longer than he was ".

Clearly you're speaking up about the #1 priorities to the American people, how DARE Bernard be a Democrat less than you were? Clearly he's as bad as Trump (if not worse tbh), he is just not qualified to be president.

Originally posted by King Maxx

Can June 7th come so all of you can breathe and look forward to the GE? Because this is not going anywhere.

Bernie, Hillary and the DNC will all go into the convention with a unified party platform that will defeat Trump. Simple as that.

Originally posted by Retro

Yes. Part of why I am pissed is because they've turned what was supposed to be the easiest primary in history for a non-incumbent candidate into a drawn out, divisive war of ideology that threatens Democratic chances in November. I am also pissed as a die-hard Hillary supporter, in particular, that HER chance and what WE have been waiting for for years, having been told it was inevitable and thinking that the majority of Democrats were fine with it, has been challenged. I will own that fact. Part of my disdain for Sanders at the moment is very much the simple fact that he ran against Hillary. Part of it is that his continued running against her could damage her shot at the Presidency that I have envisioned and dreamed of for the better part of a decade. I had expectations and plans and he disrupted them. I won't lie and say this is not a factor.

Originally posted by Eros

This has nothing to do with who has been registered as a Democrat longer. Or any of that other stuff.

You really need to do some extensive research on Sanders and look into the tactics he's used on past opponents, and then see what conclusion you come to.

Because the conclusion I came to is that Sanders has shown in the past that he likes to take the role of principled high ground. And then, once that role is psychologically established in the minds of those who support him, you're "a liar!", "corrupt!" or "in with the evil exploiters!" And if you try to argue with him or defend yourself from half-baked accusations he cooks up based on newly invented divisions that he (as a self appointed moral authority of course!!) decides to be most important against his opponent. His moral narcissism is used to elevate himself and at the same time stigmatize and dehumanize his opponents. And through it all, he gets to pick and choose the positions that are "good" (which line up with his own) and those that are "corrupt" (which line up with his opponent's), by posing as the arbiter of high-ground moralizing, defining the value system for judging corruption, and then declaring his opponent as hopelessly corrupted.

Here just read this: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/17/us...n-history.html

Originally posted by King Maxx

Can June 7th come so all of you can breathe and look forward to the GE? Because this is not going anywhere.

Bernie, Hillary and the DNC will all go into the convention with a unified party platform that will defeat Trump. Simple as that.