I don't dislike the lyric video because there are drag queens. Actually, I love the idea and the correlation w/ the song. I just don't like the fact it feels and was indeed rushed.

My point was more specifically about the fact that it's literally unwatchable (unlike any other lyric video out there) so with very minimal effort (and without any budget at all) that could have been fixed but I do agree, she never makes lyric videos anyway.

With the next era they should focus on making a great music video for the lead single and premiere it on the same day as the song without any leaks from ruining the plans.

I think what you have to remember with Gaga is that a lot of what she does is riding on her whimsy. If she wants to make her lyric video with a hand held cam at a gay club with drag queens the next day - she will. There's not a whole lot stopping her or refining her vision. That sometimes pays off, sometimes doesn't.

Lyric videos like Katy or Justin's are proper planned productions. You can tell by the finish and content that even if the artists had the initial idea - it's gone through a lot of filters to ensure the end product is slick and successful.

There are pros and cons to both approaches.

This has 138 000 000 views. A song released later in the era. like 5th single if i'm not mistaken?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqYxyd1iSNk

Applause, lead single, its lyric video (11M) :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ld9cZ7d_2A

Extra streaming is what gaga needs since she's not particularly a streaming force. And when you put effort into something it generally pays back. Hence why Katy's lyric video has 127M more hits than Gaga's lead single's lyric video.

But the problem with this comparison is there's nothing "high budget" about Katy's lyric video. It's a bunch of desserts and the quality of the film is something that could have been filmed on a DSLR. I'm not denying that what you put into something will come back, but that's not anything to do with having a high budget lyric video. It's how you utilise what you're putting in to it.

While you have a point about Gaga needing to play into streaming a bit more seriously, I just don't really care. Like it's an ugly video, and clear that people didn't really take note of it because of how ridiculous and messy it was. I just hope that whatever she does next era is taken with seriousness and professionalism.

Is this what it has come to

Tomorrow we'll be going back and forth about why Gaga wore giant italian curls (pubes) on her head and how she hasn't outsold ARTPOP because she wore them.

You are lying to yourself if you don't think Gaga has to step it the **** up for LG5 in terms of quality. This means quality visuals, quality music, quality looks, quality everything. That is, if she wants to retain a successful pop career.

I will support her in whatever she wants to do and if she doesn't want to continue a successful pop career, I will support her in that to. I love Gaga for who she wants to be no matter what.

But I'm just saying, if she does want to continue being a successful pop star, she has to start doing things differently in some areas, one of them being to not be picky and allow professionals to help make your vision become a reality.

True, I think she does want to be though as seen by all of the moves she's been making as of lately. I just don't see the point in complaining over and over about it. Even if she is a successful popstar in the future, she will always be a different kind of success. That's what makes her Gaga though, and its definitely odd that her fanbase has a harder time swallowing that pill than some of the general public.

I don't know what it is about our fan base but we have gone through this really weird transition where we want Gaga to emulate the exact same moves as any typical pop artist. We have become desperate in a way for her to be a normal popstar.

For example, we'll bitch about how she needs to make "relatable" music but her music was far from relatable during her commercial peak.

Gaga really has her own brand of success that others haven't achieved. It is a huge testament that she made a weird ass song like Applause go 3x platinum.

she has simmered down since AP flopping. she is taking pics with major pop celebrities (even kim k who she shaded) so I dont think shes as pretentious anymore as she used to be

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I'm very interested in what kind of release strategy is going to be utilized for this album.

Where have I mentioned budget? I meant Katy's videos are executed perfectly to the point they sometimes look way too polished, but they work. I'm sure a lot more thought and effort went into Bday than Applause. And the result is clear.

Gaga's ideas can be amazing but it's like they're executed by her fans instead of professionals. I'm sorry but you're literally repeating what I said. It's not about the budget but the thought/effort/utilization. And this goes beyond Lyric videos. This goes for about everything she puts out. From her performances to her MVs. Sometimes she polishes them to perfection, and sometimes she changes everything last minute and it comes out as crap.

I'm so glad we got the CTC era and this just proves my point. Look at few of her performances during the era. They were simple but effective because they were polished. This is why I'm in favor of perfected, well spaced out 3 singles and 3 music videos. A couple of amazing performances and that's it. Nothing more nothing less.

I completely agree. I never understood the "Gaga should record a song like _____" wishes. Aside from BTW, Gaga never wished to sound like anything specfic that has been done. Some other bases do that as well.

To further her Gaga abilities she just needs to continue her exhibitionist artistry including needing someone there with her to edit