It's not a bandwagon and makes complete sense. Helps animals, helps humans, helps the planet. It's extremely logical actually. I can't force you to do anything, so I don't know why meat-eaters get bothered so much, you're in a majority yet are still hyper-sensitive. It's not shaming it's presenting facts. A vegan diet is better for the planet, can be beneficial to your health and obviously is good for animals. It's simple .
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Sis are you listening to yourself?
First, hate to break it to you sis but plants are living creatures too. Just because they don't have a conscious mind of their own doesn't mean they're not.
And how are you supposed to help animals when you eat their food. Most animals we eat have a short lifespan anyways, why waste what nature has to offer?
Lastly, facts=/=opinions. Being a vegan or possibly vegetarian has its own hazards.
First, hate to break it to you sis but plants are living creatures too. Just because they don't have a conscious mind of their own doesn't mean they're not.
And how are you supposed to help animals when you eat their food. Most animals we eat have a short lifespan anyways, why waste what nature has to offer?
Lastly, facts=/=opinions. Being a vegan or possibly vegetarian has its own hazards.
If you're that concerned about plants then stop eating animals, because the animals raised for the meat you consume eat 10x the amount of plants an average vegan does. So you indirectly kill more plants than any vegan. Also plants are not sentient.
It's not just "their food" it's all our food and there's plenty enough to go around for both animals and humans. Short maybe but not as short as it is when they are kept in slaughterhouses in horrible conditions then have their throats slit and die in agony.
No, it is a fact that going vegan helps the environment not just an opinion. Agriculture is the leading cause of greenhouse gas emission. It's also pretty obvious that going vegan helps animals... you're not killing them, that's kind of irrefutable. And lastly it can benefit your health as long as you have a balanced diet.
If you're that concerned about plants then stop eating animals, because the animals raised for the meat you consume eat 10x the amount of plants an average vegan does. So you indirectly kill more plants than any vegan. Also plants are not sentient.
It's not just "their food" it's all our food and there's plenty enough to go around for both animals and humans. Short maybe but not as short as it is when they are kept in slaughterhouses in horrible conditions then have their throats slit and die in agony.
No, it is a fact that going vegan helps the environment not just an opinion. Agriculture is the leading cause of greenhouse gas emission. It's also pretty obvious that going vegan helps animals... you're not killing them, that's kind of irrefutable. And lastly it can benefit your health as long as you have a balanced diet.
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I'm not concerned for plants, I'm saying that the morality of veganism is bs.
Assuming that all human beings decided to become vegans or vegetarians, do you realize how this will effect agriculture and the environment? It will not "help the environment", it will make things a lot worse.
Besides that, it's just NOT as healthy as they taught you. It's really not.
I don't eat meat, haven't in over a decade. But before I stopped eating it, I was never crazy about meat and mostly only ate it if it was being served to me. The only meat that I remember enjoying the taste of is pork
I'm not concerned for plants, I'm saying that the morality of veganism is bs.
Assuming that all human beings decided to become vegans or vegetarians, do you realize how this will effect agriculture and the environment? It will not "help the environment", it will make things a lot worse.
Besides that, it's just NOT as healthy as they taught you. It's really not.
I didn't want to jump into this thread - I figured it'd just be some simple "yes love it!" or something, but seeing gross misapprehensions has made me just want to clear a few things up for you. Please understand this isn't in an effort to make you feel bad or look stupid, it's simply in the name of love and education. Let's start
Could you indicate to me how you feel it would be bad for the environment? Because, currently;
Meanwhile, 82% of starving children live in countries where food is fed to animals, and the animals are eaten by western countries (x, x, x ).
15x more protein can be attained from any given area by growing plants, not using animals (x)
An omnivorous diet requires 18x the amount of land to sustain RDI's than a vegan diet does (x)
1.5 acres of land can produce 37,000 pounds of plant based foods - or 375 pounds of meat (x, x )
A person who follows a vegan diet produces the equivalent of 50% less carbon dioxide, uses 1/11th oil, 1/13th water, and 1/18th land compared to a meat-lover for their food. (x)
Animals produce Enough waste to cover SF, NYC, Tokyo, etc,
(x)
Animal Agriculture is responsible for 20%-33% of all fresh water consumption in the world today (x)
2,500 gallons of water are needed to produce 1 pound of beef. (x)
Animal agriculture is responsible for between 18-51 percent of greenhouse gas emissions, more than the combined exhaust from all transportation. (x)
Livestock is responsible for 65% of all human-related emissions of nitrous oxide – a greenhouse gas with 296 times the global warming potential of carbon dioxide, and which stays in the atmosphere for 150 years. (x)
Cows produce 150 billion gallons of methane per day. (x)
Methane is 25-100 times more destructive than CO2 on a 20 year time frame. (x)
Animal agriculture water consumption ranges from 34-76 trillion gallons annually, compared to 70-140 billion gallons used in fracking. (x)
Animal Agriculture is responsible for 80-90% of US water consumption. (x)
2,500 gallons of water are needed to produce 1 pound of beef. (x)
On the subject of plants, the fallacy in that is thinking or feeling plant has to be killed in order to eat it just like an animal has to be killed, and there's no difference between the two.
Vegans draw the line at hurting sentient individuals. Plants lack nerves, let alone a central nervous system, and cannot feel pain or respond to circumstances in any deliberate way (not to be confused with the non-conscious reactions they do have). Unlike animals, plants lack the ability or potential to experience pain or have sentient thoughts, so there isn't an ethical issue with eating them.
The words 'live', 'living' and 'alive' have completely different meanings when used to describe plants and animals. A live plant is not conscious and cannot feel pain. A live animal is conscious and can feel pain. Therefore, it's problematic to assert that plants have evolved an as-yet undetectable ability to think and feel but not the ability to do anything with that evolutionary strategy (e.g. running away, etc.) Regardless, each pound of animal flesh requires between four and thirteen pounds of plant matter to produce, depending upon species and conditions. Given that amount of plant death, a belief in the sentience of plants makes a strong pro-vegan argument.
And finally, I think you'll find in wonderful keynotes such as this that a plant-based diet actually does wonders - a finding that's being confirmed almost daily in the plethora of new studies coming out.
I really do hate to "hijack" a thread on what people love, guys - if this doesn't apply to you, please just continue posting as you please.
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