Originally posted by Jan Bringing such proof makes literally no sense as half of it will be based on Keynesism and the other on the Austrian School. So there's no point in questioning either as it is logical, however one of them is coming from a wrong assumption. Education is not a right, it's a good just like a fridge, car, a house, whatever else. And the bolded statement is again, your personal opinion and so nothing really stems from it. I can say now "no, he deserves it" and we can spend hours here arguing about nothing.

Your best fit is...
Next Generation Left
along with 12% of the public.
You answered "Government often does a better job than people give it credit for," along with:
67% [Next Generation Left]
40% [GP]

You answered "Government regulation of business is necessary to protect the public interest," along with:
75% [Next Generation Left]
47% [GP]

You answered "This country should do whatever it takes to protect the environment," along with:
90% [Next Generation Left]
71% [GP]

You answered "Stricter environmental laws and regulations are worth the cost," along with:
81% [Next Generation Left]
56% [GP]

You answered "Most corporations make a fair and reasonable amount of profit," along with:
45% [Next Generation Left]
39% [GP]

You answered "The largest companies do NOT have too much power," along with:
15% [Next Generation Left]
18% [GP]

You answered "It’s best for the future of our country to be active in world affairs," along with:
54% [Next Generation Left]
35% [GP]

You answered "Relying too much on military force to defeat terrorism creates hatred that leads to more terrorism," along with:
71% [Next Generation Left]
57% [GP]

You answered "Good diplomacy is the best way to ensure peace," along with:
76% [Next Generation Left]
62% [GP]

You answered "Problems in the world would be even worse without U.S. involvement," along with:
67% [Next Generation Left]
53% [GP]

You answered "Americans shouldn’t have to give up privacy and freedom in order to be safe from terrorism," along with:
66% [Next Generation Left]
74% [GP]

You answered "Most people who want to get ahead can make it if they're willing to work hard," along with:
77% [Next Generation Left]
65% [GP]

You answered "Everyone has it in their own power to succeed," along with:
91% [Next Generation Left]
80% [GP]

You answered "Government aid to the poor does more good than harm, because people can’t get out of poverty until their basic needs are met," along with:
68% [Next Generation Left]
47% [GP]

You answered "Poor people today have it easy because they can get government benefits without doing anything in return," along with:
32% [Next Generation Left]
44% [GP]

You answered "The government should do more to help needy Americans, even if it means going deeper into debt," along with:
39% [Next Generation Left]
43% [GP]

You answered "Society is just as well off if people have priorities other than marriage and children," along with:
72% [Next Generation Left]
50% [GP]

You answered "It IS NOT necessary to believe in God in order to be moral and have good values," along with:
91% [Next Generation Left]
53% [GP]

You answered "Homosexuality should be accepted by society," along with:
88% [Next Generation Left]
62% [GP]

You answered "Blacks who can't get ahead in this country are mostly responsible for their own condition," along with:
68% [Next Generation Left]
63% [GP]

You answered "Our country has made the changes needed to give blacks equal rights with whites," along with:
67% [Next Generation Left]
49% [GP]

You answered "The growing number of newcomers from other countries strengthens American society," along with:
88% [Next Generation Left]
59% [GP]

You answered "Immigrants today strengthen our country because of their hard work and talents," along with:
83% [Next Generation Left]
57% [GP]

Originally posted by Giselle New fun quiz: http://www.people-press.org/quiz/political-typology/

Generally affluent and highly educated, most Solid Liberals strongly support the social safety net and take very liberal positions on virtually all issues. Most say they always vote Democratic and are unflagging supporters of Barack Obama. Overall, Solid Liberals are very optimistic about the nation’s future and are the most likely to say that America’s success is linked to its ability to change, rather than its reliance on long-standing principles. On foreign policy, Solid Liberals overwhelmingly believe that good diplomacy – rather than military strength – is the best way to ensure peace. Compare groups on key issues.

I don't have any respect for the pro-life stance either however I don't think it means someone should be kicked out of their Senate seat. If I were the creator of the universe, that'd be one of the first things I did. However, that's not in line with democratic or American ideals. People are allowed to have different ideologies.

Originally posted by Jan Business Conservative, that I am.

The Faith and Family Left combine strong support for activist government with conservative attitudes on many social issues. They are very racially diverse – this is the only typology group that is “majority-minority.” The Faith and Family Left generally favor increased government aid for the poor even if it adds to the deficit and believe that government should do more to solve national problems. Most oppose same-sex marriage and legalizing marijuana and most say religion and family are at the center of their lives. Compare groups on key issues.

Originally posted by Retro Yes, the Austrian School makes the false assumption that economic phenomena are solely the result of the actions and behaviors of individuals.

Originally posted by Retro Education is not a good, it is a right. It is a right to know the history of your world. It is a right to have basic literacy. It is a right to be able to understand the natural processes around you. Additionally, we have to treat it as a right unless we want our workforce and overall society to literally collapse. I have demonstrated that people cannot afford the goods they need for basic survival, so how do you expect they will make time for education as a good when it's just another added expense? When it's hours that their children could be helping out around the house, working on the family farm, or getting a job if they're fifteen? Treating education as though it's not an essential right is incredibly dangerous.

Originally posted by Retro It is a fact that other people were integral in getting Bill Gates to where he is today. That is not deniable in the slightest.

This relatively young, largely independent group holds a mix of conservative and liberal views. And while more lean toward the Republican Party than the Democratic Party, Young Outsiders generally express unfavorable opinions of both major parties. They are largely skeptical of activist government, as a substantial majority views government as wasteful and inefficient. Yet many diverge from the two conservative typology groups – Steadfast Conservatives and Business Conservatives – in their strong support for the environment and many liberal social policies.

2012 vote: 37% for Obama | 48% for Romney

Our country has made the changes needed to give blacks equal rights with whites

Blacks who can't get ahead in this country are mostly responsible for their own condition

Originally posted by heckinglovato

I'm black and actually live in the US, I'm more qualified to answer that than you.

Also, since you wanted to comment, tell me why I'm incorrect.

Originally posted by Damien M This thread is such a weird echo chamber of strange opinions, ezra is right (and he's right about a lot of things but presentation could be better) @RatedG Isn't it funny that you were right about Jeb Bush all along? I can't believe that that black hole of charisma ended up being the one Republican with actual morals. A year from now (if Trump loses, hopefully) Republicans will yearn for the days of Bush and Romney

Originally posted by Giselle I'm black and actually live in the US, I'm more qualified to answer that than you.

Originally posted by Giselle I'm black and actually live in the US, I'm more qualified to answer that than you.

Originally posted by Jan And what else do they result from? Child labor has been prohibited before Keynes. I do agree that it's not okay to force kids to work in the meaning of this as workers but kids should support their parents in their normal activities. That's essentially the more moral subistitution for former child labor. In my opinion, if a reform came with the general withdrawal of the state from many fields, taxes could be lowered which would let people decide on what their money should be spent. Better schools would cost more, worse schools would cost less. For ethical reasons, just like with the minimal income redistribution, I would propose leaving schools as free, state-owned institutions be, however cutting funding on them to a minimum. And it is a fact that their pay was the only incentive for them to do so, unless they were his wife of coowners (though money motivated the coowners too).

Originally posted by heckinglovato I've lived in the US and I have lived alongside African-Americans as well, and I believe the ones who know for a fact that the United States hasn't done nearly enough for them and that affirmative action programs are more than necessary even this very day. Please don't use your race as an anecdotal response against me, I don't like being shut out from political conversations just because I'm not a given race or someone who doesn't live in your country.

It's not shutting you out. However, my experience actually being black, with black family and friends, trumps the fact that you knew some black people when you lived here years ago. Sorry. That's the reality. This is the problem many black people have had with the Sanders campaign & supporters. A lot of you talk about black issues as if you know better than black people. This isn't specifically directed at you, but it is an issue many black people have expressed.