I'm just glad we got another female winner

Michelle won't be particularly remembered but congrats to her

Probably Frank Ocean.

Nicaragua 2.0. I can't wait.

I hope that's sarcasm. Nicaragua is probably one of my least favorite seasons ever

Aubry barely got to say anything

It was the season that got me into Survivor so I have a soft spot for it.

I thought he said Fiji?

I was talking more in terms of the twist, since both seasons have the tribes separated by age.

It baffles me that after 32 seasons so many people still do not understand the basic premise of the game. This is primarily a social game in which you have to outwit, outplay, and outlast. You don't get to win simply because you've orchestrated the most "big moves". If that was the case, then ****ing Russell Hantz would be a winner. You actually have to make the people you're voting out LIKE you. In terms of just Aubry vs. Michele, clearly Aubry had the better strategic game to be able to navigate with all the control she had. But Michele outplayed her on both the social and physical game. Michele won three individual challenges, exactly when she needed to. Aubry only won one. Plus jurors exiting the game felt that they didn't have that good of a relationship with Aubry. Nobody seemed to feel that about Michele, which speaks to her social skills. Y'all just don't get it!

I agree that they're allowed to be and that instead of production changing that or America having a say or Jury vote players need to take that possibility into consideration during their game play and adapt to that. I think social play is a legit and entertaining strategy especially if you're looking at someone like Andy Herren (Big Brother) who controlled the entire game while keeping a good stance with everyone in the game but if you're comparing Michelle and Aubry's game play I'm always going to say that Aubry is more deserving simply because she had more influence in the game and did more in the game. I know that its easy to argue Michelle is more deserving because she won and normally I agree with that stance but I really don't see it that way for this season and I felt like everyone in the final 4 were more deserving than Michelle.

Lol I'm just pressed right now.

Michele slayed that final tc with her answers. Aubry gave great answers too. But Michele has the social game advantage over her. I felt like Aubry deserved more but Michele is still a good winner for me.

Yeah, I though about it afterwards. The twist is horrible to me.

I'm pretty sure everyone in this thread are decent Survivor fans and understand the point of the game, that doesn't mean that people aren't allowed to be upset when their fave doesn't win or when someone who didn't have massive game play wins over someone who does. You're seeing peoples reactions minutes out of the result so if people are upset they are going to vent, if it makes you feel better to say no one understands the game then go ahead but that's not the case. Defending Michelle's game play and saying no one else gets the game isn't going to change peoples minds on Aubry.

Aubry's biggest mistake was when she decided to keep Michele over Jason. The fact that she knew Michele has great social games and still chose to keep her over that prick Jason. Tai should be more convincing as well when he approached Aubry & Cyd but he was a terrible speaker.

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Yeah. I mean I'll still give it to her.

There's a difference between Russell and Aubry though. Aubry actually had decent jury management while Russell was terrible. Also, Aubry had a good FTC performance while Russell again was terrible. Michele's social game was her strongest suit for sure, but I think that Aubry also had a good social game AND an even better strategic game. She was even good at the challenges too, even though she only won once.

It's not even that Aubry orchestrated the "big moves;" she orchestrated the entire game on the tribes she was on since she was the controlling part of the vote, WHICH IS THE MAIN FACTOR IN SURVIVOR.

I'm upset that Aubry didn't win too but at the same time, I get why Michele win. Social games. Legend A basically had zero relationships with the two thugs and Nick and came across as a little bit too cold so if she plays again (definitely will), I hope she will work more on how to connect with people.

I knew Aubry got Joe's vote but who gave her the second vote? I thought it was Cyd but Debbie sounded like she voted for Aubry. If she really lost Cydney's vote to Michele then I'm surprised. I thought Aubry/Cyd were closer than Michele/Cyd

Probably the worst reunion in a while? I thought they were getting better with the reunions, but this was like a Caramoan-sized mess. It seems like more than half the cast wasn't allowed to speak.

Pretty sure Probst didn't even address Cydney.

Great season, though. Probably even better than Cagayan. Can't wait until this inevitably gets downgraded in the season rankings due to the Michele win and people argue Michele vs. Aubry for years to come.

Girl, Michele/Aubry is basically the same debate as Sandra/Parvati and Natalie/Russell. You have one player with the better social game who defeats the more dominant strategic player because Survivor is (mostly) a social game. The basis of the logic here is nothing new, other than there being a recent cringeworthy resurgence of the "big move" strategy stans ever since Tony won and Probst has been campaigning for the players to play a harder, more cutthroat "strategic" game.

Honey, no. You people never learn, do you? Controlling the vote is not the "main factor" in Survivor, it's just one of the three pillars. You guys don't understand the premise of the game if you think that whoever pulls off the most "moves" and is on the right side of the vote every time clearly "deserves" to win. Aubry may have had the best strategic game, but Michele clearly had her beat socially and physically. Michele wins, Aubry loses. I ain't .

I'm one of the proponents of having the whole package in this game, and when a person wins, they deserve it. When Natalie White won the game, I was really happy. Russell didn't make all the moves in that season either, contrary to popular perception.

I'm happy for Michele because she played a decent game and worked out there. My problem is that I think that Aubry played an overall better game. First off, controlling the vote is probably the biggest factor in this game because literally it means that you're either in or you're out. If you're on the right side of the votes, it means that you had some say in whoever went every single time, which is impressive.

Also, you totally edited out what I fully said, which was:
I recognize that Michele had a great social game, even though the editing didn't really show it at all. I feel that Aubry's social game was shown, and it certainly wasn't meek, harsh, etc. It was very well balanced and personable. The only person who didn't click with Aubry in some way was Julia because of the whole almost vote against her thing.

And then there's the fact that Michele claims that her big move was getting rid of Julia, which is fair since it helped her game out. However, the main issue is that Julia was gone, regardless of if Michele was voting for or against her. That was all Aubry. Look, I understand that Michele's game wasn't super strategic, that's fine. However, I'm saying that her game should've been well-balanced when it really wasn't. Aubry's was more well balanced than Tai and Michele of all three aspects.