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Celeb News: Dr. Luke Prevents Kesha BBMA Performance
Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by Ke$hamon
I swear to god, I know being stupid is not a crime but some of you seem to go overboard.
1 - The contract that she signed didn't specify part of the deal would be her producer controlling everything related to her career, body shaming her, bullying her, not allowing her to express herself through HER music and, lastly, being raped.
2 - She doesn't owe **** to Dr.Luke. Yes she got famous because of his production, but that doesn't mean she has to be grateful for the constant pressure, abuse and awful working conditions he has provided her with. This is as close as slavery as it gets people, don't be fooled. She of course should not and will not be grateful, nor does she have to. Because it just doesnt make any ****ing sense.
3 - She didn't announce anything about the performance. Last time I checked her twitter she didn't post a 'Watch my performance at @BBMA 22/05! I will be dissing Dr.Luke, check it out!" tweet. TMZ were the ones who leaked it, so any of you saying the cancelation of the performance is on her are just stupid.
4 - If Luke doesn't have anything to hide then let her perform her ****, what is he afraid of anyways? Right now he's leading their court battle, the only thing Kesha has going on for her is lots and lots of gp support. And he knows her performance would only remind people of the disgusting situation that she's in right now. Which is the worst that could happen to Luke.
Anyway, most of you need to get your facts straight or do some research before you come here to spit a few words about a topic that you know nothing about. Us animals have known about this toxic relationship way before she released the lawsuit, way before she went to rehab, even way before she had that Die Young scandal, so you can all stop with the bs and annoying comments because it's embarassing tbh.
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Well written and said. 
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For all of you people arguing "smart" business decisions (Cherry, Johnsuxx), have you ever considered a main part of a business called 'business ethics?' I'm sure you haven't, considering your posts reflect little knowledge of what actually goes on in a corporate business setting, rather a mocked up version to push your agenda, and, as Roman Holiday stated, taunt Kesha fans.
Milton Freidman, Nobel Peace Prize Winner, and somebody far beyond any amount of intelligence that a member of a pop music forum could even muster, famously stated that the point of any business (Yes! This includes Kemosabe) is "to make as much money as possible while conforming to the basic rules of the society, both those embodied in the law and those embodied in ethical custom".
The ideology of ethical custom is what Gottwalds attorney presented, is it not? Gottwald and SONY, under advice of Christine Lepera, both promised Kesha that they would see that her career does not fall short of support, and they will allow her to use SONY's resources while not working with Luke. If, say, Gottwald is holding true to his word, why would he not let Kesha perform a Bob Dylan tribute at an awards ceremony? He has already signed off on her performing a Dylan tribute at a major festival later in May.
Furthermore, if he signed off on True Colors (allegedly), why would he sabotage her chances of experiencing success by removing it's radio deal last minute? Kesha's performance at the awards would only serve to increase her public presence, which is exactly what SONY promised, is it not - promotion of their own artist? They said it during her injunction trial, so unfortunately for Luke and his legal team, this hypocrisy is now beginning to shine through, much like Mark Gregaros predicted.
Gottwald has nothing to lose by allowing her to perform a Bob Dyland tribute, so rescinding her ability to do so directly violates the promise made during the injunction. I hope her new lawyer brings this up during their next meeting. It does not surprise me that Billboard and other news outlets reported that Lepera was surprised by Keshas attorneys discussion. After this transgression, Luke looks guiltier than ever, and court documents show that he is directly violating a promise made during the injunction hearing.
Regardless of whether he raped her or not, his transparency is shocking for such a high profile case. If he stays on this path, which, for his sake, Lepera will cut him off of, I can't see the judge giving him a clean sweep of Kesha's career.
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Member Since: 8/31/2013
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Originally posted by Torturo
I think you need to tell them some info about your performance, cause they need to approve it
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Yeah, but you can still surprise people and do something else. You think Sinead told the SNL producers she'd pull her stunt? 
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Member Since: 8/15/2012
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Preposterous she can't perform.
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Member Since: 11/18/2008
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The dr luke stans are
Disgusting I'm sure they wouldn't say any of this if their fave was in Kesha's place
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Member Since: 7/16/2010
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Originally posted by Superbitch
The dr luke stans are
Disgusting I'm sure they would say any of this if their fave was in Kesha's place
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Do not defame before found guilty!!
#DrLukeMattersToo
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Even if it weren't for this whole Luke ordeal, I still wouldn't like to see her do some stupid covers sorry.
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Member Since: 4/24/2011
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Originally posted by gettsleazy
For all of you people arguing "smart" business decisions (Cherry, Johnsuxx), have you ever considered a main part of a business called 'business ethics?' I'm sure you haven't, considering your posts reflect little knowledge of what actually goes on in a corporate business setting, rather a mocked up version to push your agenda, and, as Roman Holiday stated, taunt Kesha fans.
Milton Freidman, Nobel Peace Prize Winner, and somebody far beyond any amount of intelligence that a member of a pop music forum could even muster, famously stated that the point of any business (Yes! This includes Kemosabe) is "to make as much money as possible while conforming to the basic rules of the society, both those embodied in the law and those embodied in ethical custom".
The ideology of ethical custom is what Gottwalds attorney presented, is it not? Gottwald and SONY, under advice of Christine Lepera, both promised Kesha that they would see that her career does not fall short of support, and they will allow her to use SONY's resources while not working with Luke. If, say, Gottwald is holding true to his word, why would he not let Kesha perform a Bob Dylan tribute at an awards ceremony? He has already signed off on her performing a Dylan tribute at a major festival later in May.
Furthermore, if he signed off on True Colors (allegedly), why would he sabotage her chances of experiencing success by removing it's radio deal last minute? Kesha's performance at the awards would only serve to increase her public presence, which is exactly what SONY promised, is it not - promotion of their own artist? They said it during her injunction trial, so unfortunately for Luke and his legal team, this hypocrisy is now beginning to shine through, much like Mark Gregaros predicted.
Gottwald has nothing to lose by allowing her to perform a Bob Dyland tribute, so rescinding her ability to do so directly violates the promise made during the injunction. I hope her new lawyer brings this up during their next meeting. It does not surprise me that Billboard and other news outlets reported that Lepera was surprised by Keshas attorneys discussion. After this transgression, Luke looks guiltier than ever, and court documents show that he is directly violating a promise made during the injunction hearing.
Regardless of whether he raped her or not, his transparency is shocking for such a high profile case. If he stays on this path, which, for his sake, Lepera will cut him off of, I can't see the judge giving him a clean sweep of Kesha's career.
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In my opinion the judge was stupid not to just release Kesha from her contract as there is no logical or ethical way you could look at the relationship between Luke/Kesha and believe that they would be able to continue working together without any problems. No one was asking her to put him in jail, and thats what I think the Luke supporters are missing. By freeing Kesha it wasn't proving Luke's guilt. It was allowing both parties to cease any business or financial obligations with one another whilst this mess gets sorted out.
I am honestly baffled as to why 'a contract' is more important than someones emotional and physical wellbeing, it makes me sick. And that goes for Luke as well, even though he has mercilessly decided to hold Kesha hostage in her contract, he shouldn't have to (or in this case be able to) continue to work with her either due to their volatile relationship. The logic by the people pro-Luke is so misdirected because all that the Kesha supporters want is to her to be free and be able to have control over her own career, and in turn her OWN LIFE.
Various members on this site for whatever reason believe that it is fair or reasonable to force these two parties to continue to work together after everything thats happened. Contracts are ended all the time. I can't even count how many times a thread titled '___________ has been dropped by ________ records', so lets not ****ing pretend that these 'contracts' are some sort of unbreakable, lifelong commitments because its been proven thats not that case.
Also I would like to point out that the various members who come into every Luke v Kesha thread not just to support Luke but to berate Kesha and bash her continuously, its getting really sad and people are noticing, because obviously for whatever reason she still has you guys pressed.
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i hate this guy so much 
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It's all about ego for him. He likes having control over her, he gets off on being able to say what she can and cannot do. Keeping control over Kesha does absolutely nothing for him, which makes you wonder why he's so desperate to keep her. The only logical conclusion to me is that he's a tiny, insecure man with a very, very big ego. After years of being heralded as "THE producer", someone is finally standing up to him and he cannot take it. He's demonstrating his power over the woman who's exposing him to make himself feel better.
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Quote:
Originally posted by gettsleazy
For all of you people arguing "smart" business decisions (Cherry, Johnsuxx), have you ever considered a main part of a business called 'business ethics?' I'm sure you haven't, considering your posts reflect little knowledge of what actually goes on in a corporate business setting, rather a mocked up version to push your agenda, and, as Roman Holiday stated, taunt Kesha fans.
Milton Freidman, Nobel Peace Prize Winner, and somebody far beyond any amount of intelligence that a member of a pop music forum could even muster, famously stated that the point of any business (Yes! This includes Kemosabe) is "to make as much money as possible while conforming to the basic rules of the society, both those embodied in the law and those embodied in ethical custom".
The ideology of ethical custom is what Gottwalds attorney presented, is it not? Gottwald and SONY, under advice of Christine Lepera, both promised Kesha that they would see that her career does not fall short of support, and they will allow her to use SONY's resources while not working with Luke. If, say, Gottwald is holding true to his word, why would he not let Kesha perform a Bob Dylan tribute at an awards ceremony? He has already signed off on her performing a Dylan tribute at a major festival later in May.
Furthermore, if he signed off on True Colors (allegedly), why would he sabotage her chances of experiencing success by removing it's radio deal last minute? Kesha's performance at the awards would only serve to increase her public presence, which is exactly what SONY promised, is it not - promotion of their own artist? They said it during her injunction trial, so unfortunately for Luke and his legal team, this hypocrisy is now beginning to shine through, much like Mark Gregaros predicted.
Gottwald has nothing to lose by allowing her to perform a Bob Dyland tribute, so rescinding her ability to do so directly violates the promise made during the injunction. I hope her new lawyer brings this up during their next meeting. It does not surprise me that Billboard and other news outlets reported that Lepera was surprised by Keshas attorneys discussion. After this transgression, Luke looks guiltier than ever, and court documents show that he is directly violating a promise made during the injunction hearing.
Regardless of whether he raped her or not, his transparency is shocking for such a high profile case. If he stays on this path, which, for his sake, Lepera will cut him off of, I can't see the judge giving him a clean sweep of Kesha's career.
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 well said + to Ke$hamon's post too. But in b4 the "lol y u write essay kii".
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Originally posted by Superbitch
The dr luke stans are
Disgusting I'm sure they wouldn't say any of this if their fave was in Kesha's place
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MTE.
But whatever, as long as they get their chart stats and kiis then it doesn't matter if Dr L is balls deep down their fave's throat.
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Dr. Luke isnt acting smart poor and pitty him, at the end of the day, what hell get is scanduals and no collob. Is it worth just for Kesha? Not at all. Every one would just be afraid of him
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Feel bad for her. This is only the beginning of the blackballing....
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Member Since: 3/5/2014
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Originally posted by Soda Pop Queen
Feel bad for her. This is only the beginning of the blackballing....
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I'm afraid this is true.
However, if more women in the industry stood up and did the right thing (Beyonce, Katy, etc.) and supported her, maybe they could counteract it. Unfortunately most of the women don't care unless they're benefiting.
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