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Discussion: U.S. Election 2016: Primary Season
Member Since: 8/7/2015
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It's cool that Bernie is for the people and really want to help improve things, but it looks like the final two for the general election will be a racist billionaire and a corrupt crook
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Member Since: 5/12/2012
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Originally posted by Skywalker
Is Kasich still running?  |
Yes.
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Member Since: 11/15/2009
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Mess at Trump thanking his evangelical voters by saying, "We're going to bring back Merry Christmas" 
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
Posts: 11,012
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Originally posted by hairofglory
I'm confused, do you live here or not? As a foreigner, it would make sense that you loathe the idea of making America great again.
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Please, if the American economy crumbles, ours does too. If America goes to war, we do too. It's pretty freaking obvious why I care so much. You've got a fascist, hateful, bigoted, under qualified, and dangerous individual as the GOP nominee right now. Forgive me for being bothered by that.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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IM ALIVE
CRUZ 
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Member Since: 1/20/2012
Posts: 27,830
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Originally posted by Alejandrawrrr
Literally only one panelist made that argument (and not even one of the main ones like Cenk/John/Ana), and it was disagreed with by everyone else last time I saw... And they're still actively campaigning against Trump much more than any other candidate.
And I see validity in that argument, as pretty much the opposite of the demographic you just described (sans male, of course)  I'd still NEVER vote Trump, but it's not like I'll be voting Clinton either. Also, as a latino/black/openly gay/low income male who survived 8 years of Bush Jr (who we were led to believe was among the worst presidents ever), and barely saw improvements under our savior Obama, the statement that "no minority can survive" 4 years of Trump is laughable. |
Agreed. It's a scare tactic that the establishment has to use because they know that Clinton won't excite enough voters to actually win.
"Hillary isn't as bad!" basically 
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 3/22/2012
Posts: 53,769
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Originally posted by Marvin
People telling Bernie to drop out after he just WON 
Bernie isn't going anywhere, HillaryBots  |
He should drop because it is virtually impossible for him to win the nomination, because the Republicans now have a nominee essentially and will turn their fire entirely toward Hillary, and because his only mathematical shot at winning is by turning superdelegates which goes against literally everything he has been parroting this whole damn cycle, and which is also essentially impossible. It's time.
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Member Since: 12/22/2011
Posts: 55,626
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Originally posted by Retro
"Trump hates minorities and women" is obviously true. There is not statistically sufficient evidence to support the generalization that "illegal immigrants are committing crimes so we need to be tougher on them" - not to mention that the logic there doesn't work and "tougher" doesn't mean "deporting every last one of them." "Our trade deals are a mess" is actually something that can be argued, but I'll give you that, kinda, because that will be reformed no matter who wins. As far as Iraq, I really don't think anyone - including Hillary - disagrees with that, and I don't think that it's an important thing off which to base your vote; try staying in the present and looking at issues like ISIS, climate change, or reproductive rights (like when Trump said we should criminally prosecute women who get abortions)!
What? Sister, that was still us. We are still that joke, PLUS the added benefit of nominating this racist, sexist demagogue for President. We are more a joke than ever.
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True. I thought you were pinning it all on Trump.
Welp. yes, Trump has not made things better.
My apologies for being sassy.
I just love being the devil's advocate (pun intended)
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by @michael
Wouldn't it be crazy if Palin got a second shot at VP?  |
Don't know what other woman (let's face it, it's what he needs as a running mate) would.
Poor Carly Fiorina jumped at the wrong opportunity.
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Member Since: 8/30/2011
Posts: 22,432
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Originally posted by Butters
I wonder if Bernie will team up on Hillary with Trump when he inevitably starts focusing all of his energy on her starting from tomorrow. How could Bernie keep attacking Hillary with Trump (while using similar arguments w/o the low blows) without looking like he's on Trump's side?
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Hmm. This comment made me envision a Trump/Bernie ticket.
What a weird thought.
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Member Since: 5/12/2012
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Originally posted by Marvin
People telling Bernie to drop out after he just WON
Bernie isn't going anywhere, HillaryBots |
Hillary is 182 delegates away from the nomination... Bernie is 984 delegates away. Bernie needs to drop the **** out. 
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Trump is coming. No more games.
Its so sad that a sect of misogynists wont put aside their personal issues and rally behind Hillary.
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Member Since: 1/20/2012
Posts: 27,830
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Originally posted by Reza
he won by about 6 delegates he's literally 800 behind yeah, he should drop out. |
Again, he's not going anywhere
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by Reza
he won by about 6 delegates he's literally 800 behind yeah, he should drop out. |
He shouldn't. It'll actually help the democrat party because now the media is going to be so focused on Trump as the presumptive nominee since Cruz dropped out. Bernie staying in the race will make sure important issues won't be swept under the carpet.
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 3/22/2012
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Originally posted by Marvin
Agreed. It's a scare tactic that the establishment has to use because they know that Clinton won't excite enough voters to actually win.
"Hillary isn't as bad!" basically |
Fine, go ahead and elect Trump, #BernieOrBust y'all, you're just digging your own damn grave and your country's with it.
Scare tactic or not, it's the truth.
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Member Since: 5/8/2012
Posts: 6,632
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Originally posted by mermaid_ariel
Twitter is panicking about the announcement of Trump being the presumptive nominee. The flocking to Hillary begins.... reality is setting in.
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That phrase captures exactly what i've been feeling lately. The real race begins very soon and it's going to be quite a lively, long spectacle 
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by Clump
Hmm. This comment made me envision a Trump/Bernie ticket.
What a weird thought.
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DELETE this nightmare. I would unstan so hard 
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Congrats to Bernie on his win tonight  I really don't see the point in him dropping out until the convention.
I'm surprised Cruz dropped out tonight, but I'm excited because things are about to get really interesting.
I can't wait for the night Hillary is announced as the nominee. 
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Member Since: 12/22/2011
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Originally posted by @michael
Wouldn't it be crazy if Palin got a second shot at VP? |
that might sway me back over the the Dem side.
Palin is a damn disaster.
Trump is crazy as a fox but at least smart.
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Member Since: 8/3/2010
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Y'all aren't understanding
The reason Bernie isn't dropping out (and should not) is because of his role in shaping the democratic platform. The more contests he wins, the more votes he gets, the more interest he generates, the more clout and significance and respect he has going into the convention to convince Hillary to shape her platform as progressive as he possibly can get it.
It's not even about winning the nomination but making sure what he believes in will be enacted
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