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Poll: Most impactful black female artist of the last 40 years?
View Poll Results: Who?
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Aaliyah
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18 |
6.32% |
Mariah
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85 |
29.82% |
Whitney
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145 |
50.88% |
Beyonce
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111 |
38.95% |
Rihanna
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64 |
22.46% |
Janet
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85 |
29.82% |
TLC
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15 |
5.26% |
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Originally posted by Mr. Wonder
Janet's impact > Aaliyah's.
Whitney's impact > Aaliyah's.
Mariah's impact > Aaliyah's.
Get over it.
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... & that has nothing to do with you confusing influence & impact as two different opposite words.
You are clearly backed to the wall and grasping for straws. You're done.
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Originally posted by Chimier
No one's fuming. Y'all Aaliyah stans and your tendency to over-exaggerate.
No one said she had no impact or influence. It's just nowhere near a Whitney, a Janet or a Mariah. Let it go.
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We get it. Nobody ever said Aaliyah did have that same impact so why are you so bothered? You jumped into the conversation without even knowing what was going on. Aaliyah being as impactful as those women was never the point of the argument So why dont you let it go? You keep coming in here just for the sole reason to speak on Aaliyah.
And all of those women lived past the age of 22, i would hope that they made a bigger impact. Aaliyah's career never fully flourished.
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Originally posted by PoisonPill
Mariah had massive hits but I don't see the impact on the same level as Janet and Whitney who helped redefined pop music and pop stardom.
And the insult of including Rihanna and Beyonce...
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The insult? lol
Beyoncé is the Mariah/Whitney of her generation. She is the golden standard. She’s influenced most young R&B and pop singers in one way or another and always is pushing her work forward.
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Aaliyah really shouldn't be mentioned. She was wonderful. A beautiful spirit and all. But to mention her over Brandy and Monica, in this poll. Come on.
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Originally posted by MiaBella
Aaliyah really shouldn't be mentioned. She was wonderful. A beautiful spirit and all. But to mention her over Brandy and Monica, in this poll. Come on.
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She made a bigger impact then them. Especially Monica. Both of them cite Aaliyah for opening doors for them in the industry. Dont really see the point in you bringing them up. Lmao.
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Originally posted by Lasers
We get it. Nobody ever said Aaliyah did have that same impact so why are you so bothered? You jumped into the conversation without even knowing what was going on. Aaliyah being as impactful as those women was never the point of the argument So why dont you let it go? You keep coming in here just for the sole reason to speak on Aaliyah. And all of those women lived past the age of 22, i would hope that they made a bigger impact. Aaliyah's career never fully flourished.
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Don't equate me replying to your comments with me being bothered.
My sole reason for coming here is to discuss the impact of black female artists, not to discuss Aaliyah. I'm not really speaking about her, but more so replying to y'all.
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Originally posted by Lasers
... & that has nothing to do with you confusing influence & impact as two different opposite words.
You are clearly backed to the wall and grasping for straws. You're done.
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Okay let's say impact an influence are synonymous:
Janet's impact/influence > Aaliyah's.
Whitney's impact/influence > Aaliyah's.
Mariah's impact/influence > Aaliyah's.
You happy now?
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Originally posted by Mr. Wonder
Okay let's say impact an influence are synonymous:
Janet's impact/influence > Aaliyah's.
Whitney's impact/influence > Aaliyah's.
Mariah's impact/influence > Aaliyah's.
You happy now?
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.. As if this was ever even part of the argument?
You've been going back and forth with me because you confused synonyms with antonyms, not because of Who was more impactful. Lets not play dumb dumb. Dont try to cover your @ss now because you got schooled with reciepts.
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Originally posted by Chimier
Like I said, Y'ALL Aaliyah fans have a tendency to over-exaggerate.
It doesn't matter whether you said it or not. I said it. And it still stands.
Well, I guess that's something you're gonna have to deal with.
40 million albums where? In Neverland? Thank you for proving my point about y'all over-exaggerating.
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It's okay to be an Aaliyah hater, I guess it's TRENDY not a over exaggerated FLOP that died over a decade ago sparking so much conversation
Where did I say she sold 40M? That non fan did and I simply pointed out 40M > some ppl
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Originally posted by Lasers
She made a bigger impact then them. Especially Monica. Both of them cite Aaliyah for opening doors for them in the industry. Dont really see the point in you bringing them up. Lmao.
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I'm going to respectfully disagree. Brandy was a bigger singer, had a hit TV show and Monica was just as successful.
And I say this being a bigger fan of Aaliyah than Brandy and Monica.
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Originally posted by Chimier
Don't equate me replying to your comments with me being bothered.
My sole reason for coming here is to discuss the impact of black female artists, not to discuss Aaliyah. I'm not really speaking about her, but more so replying to y'all.
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You came in here with Aaliyah on your mind and you exited with her on your mind. And once again came back in with her on your mind. Lets be honest, this thread is only popping because of Aaliyah. But We already know that.
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Not the girls bringing up Brandy and Monica, despite having better charting on the singles charts "FLOP" liyah outsold her in the US almost 2X and Brandy being soooo much bigger than her with slay management only outsold her a few 100K in the US and that's because you can't buy Aaliyah's music anywhere. Why didn't either of their albums making the Rolling Stones list but "NOT SUPPOSED TO BE IN TGE POLL" liyah did? Wasn't Li recently the SECOND HIGHEST CHARTING FEMALE on NME'S INFLUENTIAL ARTISTS LIST? AND AFRICAN AMERICAN at that? Just admit ICON isn't your cup of tea and give it up.
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Originally posted by MiaBella
I'm going to respectfully disagree. Brandy was a bigger singer, had a hit TV show and Monica was just as successful.
And I say this being a bigger fan of Aaliyah than Brandy and Monica.
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Ill give you Brandy, but also keep in mind that her fourth album Afrodisiac was inspired by Aaliyah's musical style, which is a result of Aaliyah'a said impact.
But Monica, no. If you were a big Aaliyah fan you would know that Monica was nothing more than your typical r & b singer. Her image, music, and style definetly didnt make a bigger impact than Aaliyah's. And thats no shade.
Monica was also the only one out of the three to not have a multi faceted career like Aaliyah & Brandy. So discrediting Aaliyah for Monica is a biased mess.
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Tina Turner, Dionne Warwick, Donna Summer, Mariah Carey, Janet Jackson, Whitney Houston, Aaaliyah, Mary J. Blige, Rihanna.
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Originally posted by Lasers
Ill give you Brandy, but also keep in mind that her fourth album Afrodisiac was inspired by Aaliyah's musical style, which is a result of Aaliyah'a said impact.
But Monica, no. If you were a big Aaliyah fan you would know that Monica was nothing more than your typical r & b singer. Her image, music, and style definetly didnt make a bigger impact than Aaliyah's. And thats no shade.
Monica was also the only one out of the three to not have a multi faceted career like Aaliyah & Brandy. So discrediting Aaliyah for Monica is a biased mess.
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How am I biased when I'm a bigger fan of Aaliyah than Monica? Don't throw words or accusations around without meaning or merit. I'll give on Monica, but to say Aaliyah made more of an impact than Brandy is a reach to me. This is just personal opinion. Brandy not only was a musical force, but was an acting force, before Aaliyah began her streak of roles. Brandy opened that door for herself. I don't see much of Aaliyah's impact today, outside of style and fashion, but Brandy is someone who just about every young RnB/Soul/Pop act still cites as a vocal and musical influence and aspiration as much as or maybe even more than Aaliyah. Brandy's discography is more recognized. It's unfair to Aaliyah that she passed before she truly began her journey, but IMO, that's the truth of it.
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Originally posted by Lasers
.. As if this was ever even part of the argument?
You've been going back and forth with me because you confused synonyms with antonyms, not because of Who was more impactful. Lets not play dumb dumb. Dont try to cover your @ss now because you got schooled with reciepts.
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But that WAS the argument. The thread question asks "Poll: Most Impactful Female Artists of the last 40 years?" MOST impactful. MOST impactful. Again, MOST IMPACTFUL. The question didn't ask "Who has impact and who doesn't?" When asking who is the MOST impactful, you have to group the artists who have had the MOST impact, analyze those and dispose of the ones who shouldn't even be in the running for having the MOST impact. And that applies to Aaliyah. Whitney, Donna, Janet and Mariah have all had more impact AND influence than Aaliyah. That's at least 4 artists in the poll ahead of her. Therefore, that eliminates her from having the MOST impact. Again, nowhere did anyone say she had no impact or influence. She just doesn't have the MOST compared to the 4 I mentioned. There is no vendetta against Aaliyah. Mr.Wonder did not single her out in his original post. He also said TLC, Rihanna and Beyoncé aren't eligible either. If you take off those rose colored stan glasses of yours and step into reality, you would see that.
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Originally posted by jacklovesyou1
Beyonce? The fact that she has that many votes as well BYEEE lmao
higher than Mariah as welll lmao
Anyways Whitney and Mariah
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Mariah is a byproduct of Whitney
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