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Discussion: U.S. Election 2016: Primary Season
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Originally posted by iheartBrit
Trump said he will win New York in the general, yet Hillary got around 500,000 more votes than him last night.
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Hillary alone getting more votes than the three GOP candidates combined. Ha powah!
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Originally posted by Cupid
Mmm, kind of did! Nothing personal sweetie, just constructive feedback regarding the discussion of politics in general. Agreed though, let's shift back to the main topics/issues at hand now please.
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And @Monte I think it'd be best if he did lose a contested convention.
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Umm. Hmm. I actually think of all the candidates left from the republicans, Trump would be the easiest for her to beat. Cruz would be good too but Trump is literally a walking time bomb. If she loses to HIM then she never deserved to be president to begin with
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Originally posted by heckinglovato
While I oppose delegates potentially handing to the nomination to anybody else but Trump if goes on to have a solid lead but doesn't hit the magic number for obvious ethical reasons and personal-views, I low-key wouldn't mind that happening, as it would likely award Secretary Clinton the oval office on a silver plate.
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I mean you would think. But she always finds a way to make it hard for herself 
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Member Since: 8/3/2010
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New Monmouth poll has Clinton +13 in Pennsylvania. This comes about two weeks after Fox News had her up +11
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Originally posted by StephenNYMonster
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I am CRYING
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Progressivism is rendered absolutely useless if we don't address climate change. We can make progress on as many issues as we like; from race relations and systemic racism, to socioeconomic issues. However, what does it really matter if we are not ensuring a habitable planet for our future generations to reap the benefits of such progressive values and activism?
I see it as a pyramid of progressivism. The foundation to that pyramid has to be a sustainable planet within which the world's ecosystems and agriculture can flourish for centuries to come. Once climate change is throroughly addressed and we can see a brighter future for our planet, then we can focus more intensely on everything else. That's not to say that we can't simultaneously tackle both climate change and other issues such as systemic racism. Not at all. However, for their to be a world, one day in the future, where systemic racism is nothing but a memory, we need a planet.
I get it, some people have more pressing issues in their own personal lives that they want addressed by public officials. That's absolutely understandable. However, you must surely understand that climate change should be at the top of our collective agenda?
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Member Since: 7/21/2012
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Not people saying we shouldn't register to vote. Yes we should. You register FOR a certain party in a certain state. Without registration, that may cause problems with where a person vote. And don't say, "It's a right!!!"
Sure it is. Education is a right, but don't you still have to register to attend a school. Some of you people want to change the fundamental rules of our political system for no reason. 
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Member Since: 12/27/2011
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Originally posted by King Maxx
Not people saying we shouldn't register to vote. Yes we should. You register FOR a certain party in a certain state. Without registration, that may cause problems with where a person vote. And don't say, "It's a right!!!"
Sure it is. Education is a right, but don't you still have to register to attend a school. Some of you people want to change the fundamental rules of our political system for no reason. 
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I don't think it's a bad thing to want to change the system that we use to elect our leaders but the speed in which Bernie fans want these changes made is so unreasonable. If our voting procedures have such flaws then they should focus on fixing them in between elections, not during them.
The most annoying part is that if the system doesn't benefit their favorite candidate, it's "rigged" or "part of a conspiracy." 
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Member Since: 1/20/2012
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Originally posted by Reza
Have you checked social media in the past oh 5 months? Bernie fans are obsessed with hating Hillary. They call her liar, corrupt, witch and other things I cant say.  All of her Youtube videos have like 90% dislikes and most of the comments say #feeltheBern and Hillary for Prison...Don't start playing the victim now sis 
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I'm talking about ATRL, not anywhere else  There's Hillary fans doing the same thing on Twitter, Reddit, etc. It's unnecessary to bring that in here.
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Member Since: 6/20/2012
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Originally posted by Bey Admired
Progressivism is rendered absolutely useless if we don't address climate change. We can make progress on as many issues as we like; from race relations and systemic racism, to socioeconomic issues. However, what does it really matter if we are not ensuring a habitable planet for our future generations to reap the benefits of such progressive values and activism?
I see it as a pyramid of progressivism. The foundation to that pyramid has to be a sustainable planet within which the world's ecosystems and agriculture can flourish for centuries to come. Once climate change is throroughly addressed and we can see a brighter future for our planet, then we can focus more intensely on everything else. That's not to say that we can't simultaneously tackle both climate change and other issues such as systemic racism. Not at all. However, for their to be a world, one day in the future, where systemic racism is nothing but a memory, we need a planet.
I get it, some people have more pressing issues in their own personal lives that they want addressed by public officials. That's absolutely understandable. However, you must surely understand that climate change should be at the top of our collective agenda?
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I absolutely commend this.
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Member Since: 1/20/2012
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Originally posted by King Maxx
Not people saying we shouldn't register to vote. Yes we should. You register FOR a certain party in a certain state. Without registration, that may cause problems with where a person vote. And don't say, "It's a right!!!"
Sure it is. Education is a right, but don't you still have to register to attend a school. Some of you people want to change the fundamental rules of our political system for no reason. 
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1) Not everyone wants to be registered to a party
2) It's a right that 30+% of Americans don't have access to. There's literally no reason why people should have to register to vote if it can be done automatically 
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Member Since: 8/29/2011
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Originally posted by Reza
Have you checked social media in the past oh 5 months? Bernie fans are obsessed with hating Hillary. They call her liar, corrupt, witch and other things I cant say.  All of her Youtube videos have like 90% dislikes and most of the comments say #feeltheBern and Hillary for Prison...Don't start playing the victim now sis 
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Most national polls asking about favorability have Hillary deeply negative, as of lately. I wonder if a good portion of that is Bernie supporters than want a more progressive candidate. If is Bernie supporters, then that means her favorability could go back up by the time November comes (hopefully).
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Member Since: 8/29/2011
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Even the most optimistic of Bernie bloggers are admitting that Bernie has no shot excluding an ex machina event (An indictment or Hillary dying or Hillary dropping out). Except for HA Goodman of course. He seems to be betting on an indictment.
Not sure if I should laugh or cringe...
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Member Since: 11/30/2011
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It's hard to see Hillary's approval ratings not improving if she goes up against Trump or Cruz. Easy for people to dislike her right now when she's up against Bernie.
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Member Since: 8/29/2011
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Things that the DNC should change for 2020
1) Get rid of super delegates
2) Have all primaries be open (and register up and until the day of the primary - no photo I.D., and 17 yearolds can vote if they are 18 by November Election day)
3). Get rid of caucuses
#3 probably won't happen and would be less popular. #1 and #2 would go a long way in gather support from Bernie's base. If we want them to vote Democratic in November, then we have to make sure the Party is welcoming. I don't get how any Hillary can defend New York's Oct 3rd party change date. Shouldn't we want everyone and anyone to join the Party at anytime?!
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Originally posted by Ramcoro
Things that the DNC should change for 2020
1) Get rid of super delegates
2) Have all primaries be open (and register up and until the day of the primary - no photo I.D., and 17 yearolds can vote if they are 18 by November Election day)
3). Get rid of caucuses
#3 probably won't happen and would be less popular. #1 and #2 would go a long way in gather support from Bernie's base. If we want them to vote Democratic in November, then we have to make sure the Party is welcoming. I don't get how any Hillary can defend New York's Oct 3rd party change date. Shouldn't we want everyone and anyone to join the Party at anytime?!
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Definitely 
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Member Since: 8/3/2010
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Originally posted by Ramcoro
Things that the DNC should change for 2020
1) Get rid of super delegates
2) Have all primaries be open (and register up and until the day of the primary - no photo I.D., and 17 yearolds can vote if they are 18 by November Election day)
3). Get rid of caucuses
#3 probably won't happen and would be less popular. #1 and #2 would go a long way in gather support from Bernie's base. If we want them to vote Democratic in November, then we have to make sure the Party is welcoming. I don't get how any Hillary can defend New York's Oct 3rd party change date. Shouldn't we want everyone and anyone to join the Party at anytime?!
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Ehhhh
1) Super delegates aren't even a problem. They're only a problem this cycle because they don't like Sanders. Had he been winning them by the margin she's winning them by (something close to 12-1) this wouldn't be an issue. It's a safe guard against people like Trump and would only come into effect in close races tbh.
2) Never  . I love the idea of closed primaries. Have a mix of some being open and closed
3) Agreed. Or, you could have the small states be caucuses but the big ones being primaries. Caucuses still seem important tbh.
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Member Since: 6/20/2012
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Like I said, if Democratic voters wanted someone like Trump as their nominee, then they should get someone like Trump as their nominee. If they don't, then they don't.
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Originally posted by heckinglovato
Like I said, if Democratic voters wanted someone like Trump as their nominee, then they should get someone like Trump as their nominee. If they don't, then they don't.
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This country isn't a pure democracy, it's a democratic republic. We elect representatives to make certain decisions and in close elections that could have dire consequences superdelegates can play an important role. Even the founding fathers made it so the decision isn't left up soley to the people
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Member Since: 6/20/2012
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Originally posted by RatedG²
This country isn't a pure democracy, it's a democratic republic. We elect representatives to make certain decisions and in close elections that could have dire consequences superdelegates can play an important role. Even the founding fathers made it so the decision isn't left up soley to the people
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I don't think the voting system in the General Election should have anything to do with how private parties conduct their elections. I also do oppose the founding fathers' electoral college system.
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