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Discussion: U.S. Election 2016: Primary Season
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Lol you can tell Ivanka just wants this election to be over
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The problem here is the fact that Hillary supporters continue to make fun of Bernie supporters instead of focusing on actual issues that matter (whether it be climate change, racial issues, etc). For them to supposedly be so mature and educated, you would think they have something better to talk about. I see more posts about these "BernieBros" than anything else, even though most of Bernie's supporters in here act nothing like that.
But of course the HillaryBots don't care 
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Member Since: 8/3/2010
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Originally posted by Flare
I agree with Cupid and alexandro. If you want people to care about an issue, the wrong way of going about it is insulting them, using an insultive/condescending tone, and basically acting superior to people by claiming how much you care and know about that topic.
It comes off obnoxious and your "care" about the issue comes off ingenuine and just as a means to make your feel better about yourself especially if you're not actually talking about the topic and just telling people "WHY DON'T YOU CARE". Not everyone cares about the same things and they're entitled to that as humans. Scientifically speaking, the planet is going to be obliterated by the Sun in a couple billion years + the planet naturally goes through cycles of temperature change regardless of what we put into it. So, climate change is a great convo and thing to be active about but (not to be super grim) it's only going to save us a sprinkle of time overall before it's all over.
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Took the word right out of my mouth. I agree (except the "it's gonna save us a sprinkle of time"). Trust me, Humans will ruin each other before then
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Originally posted by Cupid
And do you think telling people they're biased and don't know what's important is the best way to win them over to your point of view? It's like politics 101, you don't win people over by demeaning them, you do so through education and discussion.
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I'm not necessarily advocating being rude and you can have your perceptions about how I and others say things but that's not really my point - I'm advocating being loud about the issue and refusing to give up ground on the issue.  And it's not just with climate change, either - that just happens to be the issue currently at hand.
I might not agree with the language used in some cases, but I agree with some of the sentiment behind it. Maybe hecking was wrong to use the term "enlightened" and suggest people need to be educated, but that's wholly different from thinking they don't make it enough of a priority. I personally don't care how much they know about the issue or how aware they are, I don't think they give it enough significance either way.
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Originally posted by Cupid
They showed Trump/Hillary on UK news earlier, talking about how they're basically the nominees and the results last night. No mention of Bernie/Kasich at all. My family found it hilarious that Trump is still in this and doing well.  |
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Originally posted by Radiance
TBH BernieBros seem more concerned about Hillary's wall street speeches than they are about Climate Change.
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+1. How can you say that you're all about "the issues", and then bring up one of the biggest non-issues of this election cycle ad nauseum?
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Member Since: 11/15/2009
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Originally posted by Cupid
Okay but let's be real, this is rich coming from you. In your own words last night, majority of your posts in here aren't serious/are troll posts.
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Member Since: 6/20/2012
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Originally posted by Cupid
Tone is subjective and I think it speaks that majority of people in here agree with what I said. It might not be intentional, but it's just something to consider.. How you go about expressing and convincing of your opinions.
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I don't know what you mean by "it speaks" - but having more people complain about my tone won't make them right, especially since I am basically posting in the lion's den here. When Ace couldn't find a single post of mine to warn after a night of long debate over the issues, he came out to criticize my "tone" and 4/5 people came out against what he said. That didn't "speak" about either side, it was just different people having different opinions on different things.
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Member Since: 1/20/2012
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Originally posted by Cupid
Okay but let's be real, this is rich coming from you. In your own words last night, majority of your posts in here aren't serious/are troll posts.
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Yeah but you won't find posts where I continuously made fun of her supporters. I focused on things that actually matter like the debates, polls, ideas, etc.
And I think it's pretty obvious when my posts are/aren't serious, but maybe not.
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Member Since: 11/15/2009
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Originally posted by Cupid
Anyway, this isn't going anywhere. Looking forward to the next primary.
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4/26
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Member Since: 6/20/2012
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Originally posted by Cupid
Subjective sweetie. Fact is, what I said is true because it's my opinion. Others seem to agree.
fgkndfg cackling @Marvin, you're definitely a great troll.
Anyway, this isn't going anywhere. Looking forward to the next primary.
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Of course it's subjective! I never thought the oddly-insignificant and distracting comments about my alleged "tone" were ever objective or well-founded. But I do see how rational advocacy to talk about things like climate change in a thread filled with futile obsessive criticisms of reckless comments from supporters on social media may come off as a "tone".
I'm looking forward to the next primary as well.
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Originally posted by @michael
That's really rich coming from you!
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No, you're just super try hard and never have anything above 4chan discussion level to say
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Originally posted by @michael
Honestly all of us will be long gone anyways before the Earth becomes uninhabitable.
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The Earth won't become uninhabitable in a basic sense, that's true, but life will become very different and hard to sustain. With sea levels knocking on the doors of an incredible number of major cities, global temperatures continuing to rise, and agricultural practices being incredibly unsustainable, people WILL die.
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Member Since: 8/3/2010
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I'm hoping Trump actually gets to 1237. I fear he may not win a contested convention (he's favored but you never know. Their system seems to be against him)
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Member Since: 11/15/2009
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Originally posted by Cupid
Maybe that's the crux, you never thought. Put a little more into how you may come across when you tell others their views aren't important. It's not what you say, it's how you say it.
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I'm interested to see what will happen if Trump fails to get to the magic number, I feel a mess coming on.
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The Republican Convention will get such huge ratings 
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Member Since: 6/20/2012
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Originally posted by Cupid
Maybe that's the crux, you never thought. Put a little more into how you may come across when you tell others their views aren't important. It's not what you say, it's how you say it.
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I'm interested to see what will happen if Trump fails to get to the magic number, I feel a mess coming on.
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I don't tell others their views aren't important. Though they're free to interpret it (or not to) that way when I say I believe the issues they're discussing don't matter. This has shifted, yet again, as personal targeting against me. I will stop right here and shift back to the issues.
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I think both Clinton and Trump will get to the magic number, just a feeling!
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Member Since: 11/30/2011
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Oh Hillary's percentage has went up to 58% exact with 99% in, a much nicer number.
The Republicans have ~125 unpledged delegates at this point don't they? Key for Trump will be winning those.
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Member Since: 4/6/2011
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Originally posted by Marvin
The problem here is the fact that Hillary supporters continue to make fun of Bernie supporters instead of focusing on actual issues that matter (whether it be climate change, racial issues, etc). For them to supposedly be so mature and educated, you would think they have something better to talk about. I see more posts about these "BernieBros" than anything else, even though most of Bernie's supporters in here act nothing like that.
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Have you checked social media in the past oh 5 months? Bernie fans are obsessed with hating Hillary. They call her liar, corrupt, witch and other things I cant say.  All of her Youtube videos have like 90% dislikes and most of the comments say #feeltheBern and Hillary for Prison...Don't start playing the victim now sis 
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While I oppose delegates potentially handing to the nomination to anybody else but Trump if goes on to have a solid lead but doesn't hit the magic number for obvious ethical reasons and personal-views, I low-key wouldn't mind that happening, as it would likely award Secretary Clinton the oval office on a silver plate.
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