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Discussion: U.S. Election 2016: Primary Season
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Originally posted by Giselle
Can someone post that avi of Hillary talking during a debate? I believe she's wearing red in it. It was just posted here a few days ago.
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Is this it?
Does anybody know a good source where someone that compiles all members Congress and the Cabinet who are either openly queer or POC/Anyone who isn't a straight, white man or woman?
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Originally posted by Jonna Lee
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Wow. I'm speechless.
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Originally posted by Jonna Lee
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So why would Bernie supporters say they are voting for Trump? It just doesn't add up. I mean, you would have got the same reaction at a Hillary rally as you would at Bernie's.
I just think some Bernie supporters let themselves down sometimes with their misogyny and ignorance.
Reminder: I said SOME Bernie supporters, not all.
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New NBC Maryland poll! HRC 58, Bernie 36.
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Originally posted by Bey Admired
So why would Bernie supporters say they are voting for Trump? It just doesn't add up. I mean, you would have got the same reaction at a Hillary rally as you would at Bernie's.
I just think some Bernie supporters let themselves down sometimes with their misogyny and ignorance.
Reminder: I said SOME Bernie supporters, not all.
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What sweeping generalizations  A VERY small subset of Bernie voters will honestly vote for Trump, just like a VERY small subset of Hillary voters voted for McCain in 2008. They'll either swallow their pride, or in the case of Bernie's strong independent base, lose interest in the election. And to be honest, I posted the video to contrast a Republican rally vs. a Democratic rally as spaces for positive black energy and just because I'm a Bernie supporter doesn't mean I'll trying to candidacize it. And honestly, the Reddit-lurking "Bernie bros" were ignorant and sexist before this campaign. All candidates attract unsavoury types, are we gonna have to go over Hillary's? 
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Originally posted by Jonna Lee
Is this it?
Does anybody know a good source where someone that compiles all members Congress and the Cabinet who are either openly queer or POC/Anyone who isn't a straight, white man or woman?
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Ah, yes. Thank you.
I don't know who made it but I'm stealing it girlies.
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Originally posted by Jonna Lee
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Yet these "happy and accepting" Bernie stans are ready to burn Hillary at the stake and get angry at the very sound of her name  Something seems VERY off.... 
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Originally posted by Jonna Lee
What sweeping generalizations  A VERY small subset of Bernie voters will honestly vote for Trump, just like a VERY small subset of Hillary voters voted for McCain in 2008. They'll either swallow their pride, or in the case of Bernie's strong independent base, lose interest in the election. And to be honest, I posted the video to contrast a Republican rally vs. a Democratic rally as spaces for positive black energy and just because I'm a Bernie supporter doesn't mean I'll trying to candidacize it. And honestly, the Reddit-lurking "Bernie bros" were ignorant and sexist before this campaign. All candidates attract unsavoury types, are we gonna have to go over Hillary's? 
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I knew you would say that. That's why I made it VERY clear that I was talking about some. Despite that, you still said it  Never change.
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Originally posted by Reza
Yet these "happy and accepting" Bernie stans are ready to burn Hillary at the stake and boo at the very sound of her name  Something seems VERY off.... 
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There are just so many inconsistencies when it comes to many of his supporters'.
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Originally posted by Giselle
Ah, yes. Thank you.
I don't know who made it but I'm stealing it girlies.
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I think @michael
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Originally posted by Bey Admired
There are just so many inconsistencies when it comes to many of his supporters'.
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Agreed. Starting from the fact that many of them would support ANYONE but Hillary even Trump  Literally all of the Hillary videos on Youtube have Bernie supporters saying things like she's a criminal, she belongs in prison, #BernTheWitch, #AnyoneButHillary.  Their hatred for Hillary is something else.
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Originally posted by Jonna Lee
Is this it?
Does anybody know a good source where someone that compiles all members Congress and the Cabinet who are either openly queer or POC/Anyone who isn't a straight, white man or woman?
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A list of LGBT congress members can be found HERE.
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Originally posted by 114th Congress is most diverse ever
Almost one-in-five members of the House and Senate are a racial or ethnic minority, making the 114th Congress the most diverse in history. However, Congress remains disproportionately white when compared with the U.S. population, which has grown increasingly diverse in recent decades, according to a Pew Research Center analysis.
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http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...-diverse-ever/
Minorities and Women in the 110th Congress (Between January 3, 2007, and January 3, 2009)
Can't find the hard data for the current 114th Congress makeup, but I'm sure there is a list out there somewhere.
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Originally posted by Bey Admired
I knew you would say that. That's why I made it VERY clear that I was talking about some. Despite that, you still said it  Never change.
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Sorry, "some" doesn't make your statement any less sweeping. Very few hardcore Sandersnistas are motivated by pure misogyny or bigotry against Hillary.
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Originally posted by Bey Admired
So why would Bernie supporters say they are voting for Trump? It just doesn't add up. I mean, you would have got the same reaction at a Hillary rally as you would at Bernie's.
I just think some Bernie supporters let themselves down sometimes with their misogyny and ignorance.
Reminder: I said SOME Bernie supporters, not all.
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What does this have to do with the free hugs? 
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Originally posted by Jonna Lee
Sorry, "some" doesn't make your statement any less sweeping. Very few hardcore Sandersnistas are motivated by pure misogyny or bigotry against Hillary.
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Yes, it does 
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Originally posted by foxaylove
Don't get me wrong, she received plenty of criticism that she deserves. Especially the ones she backtracked on, rather to save face or realize that she was in the wrong. I sincerely believe she backed off the Keystone Pipeline XL for saving face, but the social issue of acceptance for the LGBT community, I think that those were a genuine development. Deep down, Hillary has always been a liberal. She was raised a Republican because as a child, we take the religion and political mentality of our parents teachings, but once we are an adult, we develop our own thoughts and beliefs. She did that when she went to college. A young Hillary was very liberal. I think she went to the center when she married Bill. However, once she got to her own political office, she rose back to her young liberal roots.
Attack ads and created scandals definitely takes its toll. If you are relentless in creating conspiracies and fallacies, people start to see this as a pattern and take it as the truth. You know, in today's age, it's guilty before proven innocent in the court of public opinion. Reputations and lives are ruined over lies and even once proved to be not true, there are still people out there that beg to disagree. If a person grows up seeing a person ruthlessly attacked over the years with attacks against their moral compass or character, nonstop, you would be hard pressed to not think for a moment, "man, something must be off about this person because there is always something with them going on." Benghazi happened before under 3 out of the 4 previous administrations, but those deaths were never politicized in such the manner as now. It's so much things that the right have done and said to her that just is disheartening.
No, by no means do I think Hillary is faultless in some of her failed ventures, but the woman is relentless in refusing to stay down. That's something admirable. She's fighting twice as hard for everything she has and continues to strive for.
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Well said and I completely understand 
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Originally posted by Reza
Agreed. Starting from the fact that many of them would support ANYONE but Hillary even Trump  Literally all of the Hillary videos on Youtube have Bernie supporters saying things like she's a criminal, she belongs in prison, #BernTheWitch, #AnyoneButHillary.  Their hatred for Hillary is something else.
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YouTube commentators (the dregs of society no shade) =/= A majority opinion
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Originally posted by Marvin
What does this have to do with the free hugs? 
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Exactly  To quote Bey Admired, "never change!" 
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Originally posted by foxaylove
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Wow  bless you/thank you so much 
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Originally posted by Marvin
What does this have to do with the free hugs? 
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That's for you to figure out. I am quite educated in the analysis of stuff like this. Not everything is to be taken at face-value. It's good to be analytical.
Being analytical is how I came to the conclusion that Hillary is by far the best candidate to lead the free world. If I had been less analytical, I'd probably be supporting Bernie because his policies generally align with my fanstasised world view.
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