Fact is, we don't know who is more likely to beat Republicans in November. Why? Because there is this process called "vetting." What is vetting? Well, it's what most of the Bernie fans do with Hillary for months now, call into question previous actions, associations, stances, votes, character, etc over the years. Being relentless in challenging the legitimacy of her candidacy and character. Hillary has been vetted by the Republican party for over 25 years now. 25 years of personal and professional attacks, geared towards tearing her down. Every aspect of her life is under a microscope for criticism. Bernie has yet to feel such heat of any kind. MILLIONS OF DOLLARS has been poured into efforts to ruin her campaign. A GOP PAC has spent nearly $5 million dollars recently on attack ads against Hillary. Bernie? ZERO. Hillary is critical of Bernie, but not critical enough. She handles him with kid gloves. Why? Because Hillary and her campaign are too scared to alienate his hardcore supporters. Bernie on the other hand, he can pop her however he wants with no push back or ramifications. The first time I seen him get push back was after the "qualified-gate." He rightfully got heat from a lot of folks about it and he backtracked, only to double down with wording it different with "judgement." After his campaign were exposed for data-gate and harassing union members in Nevada, he skated with no consequences hardly. Had it been Hillary, she would have been berned at the stake. Being demonized with #BernTheWitch #WhichHillary and other ridiculous social media attacks you expect from the right, not left.
His gun control history, the toxic waste dump in West Texas, Lockheed Flip Flopping, Cuba/Castro comments, Gender Pay Gap in his own campaign, etc. are only a few issues that haven't been held against him hard enough. He is skating through the vetting process on both sides and it's because of fear on Hillary's side for alienation and the other side? They just don't take him seriously cause they don't think he'll be the nominee or has a path towards the nomination. Hillary has withstood attacks from both sides and yet she's still producing strong results in the actual voting process. If you don't think a GOP who throws everything at Bernie, blasting him publicly and digging up stuff to air won't cause his polling head-to-heads to drop, you have another thing coming. #VetHIM
Debunking of Myth #2
Hillary does know how to get things done. It's called working in bipartisan effort. Realistically, you have to understand that not every piece of legislation is going to pass through congress, but you have to work with the system you have. She has done that. She did that when working for the First Responders, securing $21 billion in federal aid assistance for them; helping NYC rebuild after September 11th. Went to battle in getting first responders who went straight into ground zero the help they needed. Hillary to protect and create jobs in New York state, from Niagara Falls Air Force base or the Center for Bioinformatics at the University of Buffalo. She also led the charge on the Lilly Ledbetter Pay Equity Act (Law of the land).
As Secretary of State, Hillary did something that is hard pressed to do, she actually got super power nations like Russia, China, the EU, and the Civilized World on board with harsh sanctions against Iran. Basically strong-arming them, forcing them to come negotiate. She can play hard ball too when producing results. She pushed and got the START Treaty finalized (missile reduction agreement with Russia). Hillary entered the START Treaty into force within Munich, Germany. Played an integral role in adverting an all out war in Gaza between Israelis and Palestinians (negotiating a cease-fire). Advanced the STATE DEPARTMENT by creating, "Center for Strategic Counterterrorism Communications." Premised to counter Al-Qaeda’s online presence.
Getting things done stateside and WORLDWIDE.
Debunking of Myth #3
Fact is, Bernie has helped here and there for the Democratic down ticket through "letters" and such, as stated by him and Jane. However, he comes nowhere near the levels of proactive involvement in which Hillary has. When asked if he would help with fundraising for the down ticket, he responded with a, "we'll see." WHAT? HUH? There is no "we'll see," only "WHEN AND WHERE." To push progressive issues forward, you need those people in office. They can't get in office if they don't have the funds to compete against rival parties. Also, you can't expect these people, some being super delegates, to vote for you on the floor in July, when you won't even lift a finger to help them or the Democratic Party. Hillary has spent her entire adulthood VOTING for Democrats. RECRUITING for Democrats. CAMPAIGNING for Democrats. FUNDRAISING for Democrats. She has always been there for her party. Bernie? Not so much. For someone who says, "Not me, Us" it sure does come off as the "us" doesn't include the party leaders.
Debunking of Myth #4
Yes, experience gives you the edge. If you walk into a job interview for a big time position for a large company. If you are an equal to your competitors in education, your experience will set you apart from the pack. Your experience will sell you and get the position. As a former Senior Recruiter, who did this for a living, I would know. The position of POTUS would be no different. Experience is the end all, but it is the most key thing when going through prerequisites.
SCREAMING These lashings are too good, and SO deserved.
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...a guy promises not to stay home on election day if Sanders doesn’t win but to “burn down the house” and vote for Donald Trump. Think about that for a moment. Think about the irresponsible ******* craziness of a statement like that. And I wish I could tell you that that sentiment is an outlier, but a quick scan of the vitriolic Two Minutes Hillary Hate across not only the comments after my column but in the face of any other opinion that doesn’t show an appropriate amount of Bern-feeling and you come to realize that this kind of self-sabotaging nihilism is par for the course. It’s unimaginable that the supposedly intellectual and analytical electorate on the left would even consider the prospect of a Trump presidency -- finding any rationale at all for bringing it to fruition -- but these people are neither intellectual nor analytical. These people are ****ing nuts. The same way that the angry minions who worship Trump and do his bigoted bidding at a mere suggestion don’t deserve a voice in the discourse -- because they’re just that irresponsible and dangerous -- the arrogant Sanders fanatics who swear that a Trump presidency is just the object lesson we all need if we pass on Bernie Sanders don’t deserve a voice either. At the very least, their fatalistic threats should preclude them from ever being taken seriously by anyone talking about politics.
Put it this way: If you honestly believe that a Donald Trump presidency is a more favorable outcome in November than a Hillary Clinton presidency, you are a goddamn moron. To consider those two candidates comparable -- or really any Democrat comparable with any of the current Republican clown car in Congress or running for president -- renders any opinion you have to offer moot. Again, there’s no need to even pretend to show you an ounce of respect or allow you equal footing in a debate about presidential politics. Tragically, you’ll get a vote in November and you’ll be able to stick out your bottom lip and throw a little pouty tantrum as you figuratively shoot yourself in the foot, but that’s between you and your god. Until that time, as long as you’re making your galactically stupid intentions public, we all get to ridicule you mercilessly. I’ve said this before but it bears repeating over and over again: the Democrats are the only thing standing between the United States and a lunatic oblivion -- the living, breathing Idiocracy finally fully realized. Whoever the Democratic candidate is once the dust settles, that’s the person who gets your vote -- at least if you’re a responsible, thinking individual and not a petulant child.
There are reasons you may choose not to vote for Hillary Clinton in 2016, but one would hope they're policy issues rather than problems with her personality -- because the "personality" that's been sold to the American electorate is largely manufactured, and not by Clinton herself (another facet of the smear: that she's a phony).
She's flip flopped on numerous policies though And there are videos on YouTube that show off her personality. She's nice in some and rude in others.
But let's just blame the Republicans, since they're the reason for everything bad in life
Many people don't like Hillary because she does not seem "authentic". That comes off a lot, and it rarely has to do with her voting record, but the way she talks and presents herself when talking about certain issues.
That's what the article is saying. (I don't blame Republicans for it however) But it is something that is wrong, but she won't overcome that at this point. She just naturally isn't a likable person, and I think the Dem electorate knows that about her. They either let that be their deciding factor or not. That's where the electability and experience factor mostly comes in to save her.
She's flip flopped on numerous policies though And there are videos on YouTube that show off her personality. She's nice in some and rude in others.
But let's just blame the Republicans, since they're the reason for everything bad in life
But honestly, what politician has never flip flopped on multiple issues? NAME ONE! Even Bernie has flip flopped on plenty of issues. Someone who is so pro-environment, yet once voted and advocated for dumping toxic waste from Vermont to West Texas, near civilization. Someone who supposedly has always "been there" for LGBT community, but as recent as 2006 showed otherwise. When he ripped Lockheed Martin a new hole on the floor about the billions of dollars from the US gov't and taxpayers, yet 7 years later, he supported the $1.2 trillion stealth fighter jet by Lockheed. Nevermind him supporting the same company, who setup shop in his state years ago.
Everyone goes back-and-forth, Hillary is no different.
...a guy promises not to stay home on election day if Sanders doesn’t win but to “burn down the house” and vote for Donald Trump. Think about that for a moment. Think about the irresponsible ******* craziness of a statement like that. And I wish I could tell you that that sentiment is an outlier, but a quick scan of the vitriolic Two Minutes Hillary Hate across not only the comments after my column but in the face of any other opinion that doesn’t show an appropriate amount of Bern-feeling and you come to realize that this kind of self-sabotaging nihilism is par for the course. It’s unimaginable that the supposedly intellectual and analytical electorate on the left would even consider the prospect of a Trump presidency -- finding any rationale at all for bringing it to fruition -- but these people are neither intellectual nor analytical. These people are ****ing nuts. The same way that the angry minions who worship Trump and do his bigoted bidding at a mere suggestion don’t deserve a voice in the discourse -- because they’re just that irresponsible and dangerous -- the arrogant Sanders fanatics who swear that a Trump presidency is just the object lesson we all need if we pass on Bernie Sanders don’t deserve a voice either. At the very least, their fatalistic threats should preclude them from ever being taken seriously by anyone talking about politics.
Put it this way: If you honestly believe that a Donald Trump presidency is a more favorable outcome in November than a Hillary Clinton presidency, you are a goddamn moron. To consider those two candidates comparable -- or really any Democrat comparable with any of the current Republican clown car in Congress or running for president -- renders any opinion you have to offer moot. Again, there’s no need to even pretend to show you an ounce of respect or allow you equal footing in a debate about presidential politics. Tragically, you’ll get a vote in November and you’ll be able to stick out your bottom lip and throw a little pouty tantrum as you figuratively shoot yourself in the foot, but that’s between you and your god. Until that time, as long as you’re making your galactically stupid intentions public, we all get to ridicule you mercilessly. I’ve said this before but it bears repeating over and over again: the Democrats are the only thing standing between the United States and a lunatic oblivion -- the living, breathing Idiocracy finally fully realized. Whoever the Democratic candidate is once the dust settles, that’s the person who gets your vote -- at least if you’re a responsible, thinking individual and not a petulant child.
Another thing I never understood is, why do some Bernie supporters call Hillary a Republican disguised as a Democrat? As if her time in Senate, she didn't rank 11th as the most liberal Senator, voting-wise. Eleventh, where she was to the left of Democratic peers in being more liberal. Peers such as heralded Populist, Elizabeth Warren and current POTUS, Barak Obama. Bernie was naturally #1, but it's not like Hillary doesn't have a liberal voting past. To call her anything but is laughable.
But honestly, what politician has never flip flopped on multiple issues. NAME ONE! Even Bernie has flip flopped on plenty of issues. Someone who is so pro-environment, yet once voted and advocated for dumping toxic waste from Vermont to West Texas, near civilization. Someone who supposedly has always "been there" for LGBT community, but as recent as 2006 showed otherwise. When he ripped Lockheed Martin a new whole on the floor about the billions of dollars from the US gov't and taxpayers, yet 7 years later, he supported the $1.2 trillion stealth fighter jet by Lockheed. Nevermind him supporting the same company, who setup shop in his state years ago.
Everyone goes back-and-forth, Hillary is no different.
I'm not saying they don't, but I think Hillary has flip flopped a lot more than most.
That article (from what I've read at least; got tired of reading it) is trying to say the GOP's attacks are the reason to blame for Hillary's untrustworthiness, but it's really her own fault. Her records, her speeches, her plans, her super PACs, etc are why people say she's corrupt or untrustworthy. She's definitely been in the public eye for a while and has gotten a lot of attacks from Republicans, but it doesn't take an attack ad for someone to think negatively about her.
She's done some great things, and she's done some things that have turned people off from her. Why can't we just hold her accountable for her career?
So many icons on that list, Bernie & Hillary, Barbara Boxer, Ted Kennedy, Daniel Akaka
Sigh, doesn't it just make you feel good to see all those big names on one list? I can't wait to see the next wave of Democratic leaders to come. President Obama opened the door to a new generation and I want to see who evolves and thrives with this turn.
I'm not saying they don't, but I think Hillary has flip flopped a lot more than most.
That article (from what I've read at least; got tired of reading it) is trying to say the GOP's attacks are the reason to blame for Hillary's untrustworthiness, but it's really her own fault. Her records, her speeches, her plans, her super PACs, etc are why people say she's corrupt or untrustworthy. She's definitely been in the public eye for a while and has gotten a lot of attacks from Republicans, but it doesn't take an attack ad for someone to think negatively about her.
She's done some great things, and she's done some things that have turned people off from her. Why can't we just hold her accountable for her career?
Don't get me wrong, she received plenty of criticism that she deserves. Especially the ones she backtracked on, rather to save face or realize that she was in the wrong. I sincerely believe she backed off the Keystone Pipeline XL for saving face, but the social issue of acceptance for the LGBT community, I think that those were a genuine development. Deep down, Hillary has always been a liberal. She was raised a Republican because as a child, we take the religion and political mentality of our parents teachings, but once we are an adult, we develop our own thoughts and beliefs. She did that when she went to college. A young Hillary was very liberal. I think she went to the center when she married Bill. However, once she got to her own political office, she rose back to her young liberal roots.
Attack ads and created scandals definitely takes its toll. If you are relentless in creating conspiracies and fallacies, people start to see this as a pattern and take it as the truth. You know, in today's age, it's guilty before proven innocent in the court of public opinion. Reputations and lives are ruined over lies and even once proved to be not true, there are still people out there that beg to disagree. If a person grows up seeing a person ruthlessly attacked over the years with attacks against their moral compass or character, nonstop, you would be hard pressed to not think for a moment, "man, something must be off about this person because there is always something with them going on." Benghazi happened before under 3 out of the 4 previous administrations, but those deaths were never politicized in such the manner as now. It's so much things that the right have done and said to her that just is disheartening.
No, by no means do I think Hillary is faultless in some of her failed ventures, but the woman is relentless in refusing to stay down. That's something admirable. She's fighting twice as hard for everything she has and continues to strive for.
Sigh, doesn't it just make you feel good to see all those big names on one list? I can't wait to see the next wave of Democratic leaders to come. President Obama opened the door to a new generation and I want to see who evolves and thrives with this turn.
Yes, exactly Everyone goes on about how divisive and dangerous this election seems to be, but no matter who wins, there's going to be an incredible new generation of Democratic leaders ready to push boundaries and get things done, and not only Obama, but both Democratic campaigns are giving political youth passion + power.