Marvin is actually correct. The Democratic Party of today is in no way, the same Democratic Party of over 100 years ago. The Democratic Party of today changed for the better and more inclusive at the time of JFK's presidency and continued on with LBJ's. That's why you'll hear a lot of times the Democratic Party of today is basically the Republican Party of old. The Civil Rights Movement and Gender Inequality helped push the Democratic Party to Progressive values. We basically "evolved" into the party of today, while the GOP regressed.

When Bernie continues his calls for a "Political Revolution," he's hoping for that revolution to happen like what did back in 1963 and 1964. His hopes of the party moving more left and more liberal is what he's getting at. But to that argument, there is a party that is actually to the left of the Democratic Party, it's called "The Green Party."

This is a much different type of contest though. Obama was still very much an establishment candidate when he ran. Bernie is not.

However, I do see most democrats getting behind whoever the nominee is. But again, Bernie's going to have to have some kind of payoff in the end to please his supporters. After the "unqualified" thing I don't see him being VP (could you imagine the attack ads from republicans?) but she's going to have to find a way to incorporate his supporters into her campaign.

Elizabeth Warren as her VP is the best bet. She should use both her and Bernie still to campaign and get the message across. Either way she's going to have no choice but to adapt most of Bernie's ideas and transform her campaign for the GE.

I said this days ago. These publications read this thread lol

Not half

Lie. Hillary has almost 2.5 million more votes than Bernie. The people trust her more to get **** done.
That's not going to happen within the next 8 years. And, wouldn't supporting the person who has actually worked towards supporting Democrats on all levels of government be more convincing of accomplishing that than someone who is completely new to the party and badmouths it constantly?
It's not going to happen without compromise and cooperation, two things Bernie has shown to not be interested in.
Well, I would like to see the 2 party system break apart myself. Just not for the same reason.

I agree with those who say Jeff Weaver was a mistake for Bernie's campaign.

It ain't even that funny chill bb

The democratic party is not perfect. A lot of bad things have come from the democratic party as well.

And Bernie is not new to the party. He's caucused with democrats since the 90's. Truth is a lot of Americans are independents because most view both of the parties to have their flaws. BUT Bernie still falls more in line with democratic ideas and policies than anything else. He's just more to left.

He needs Ted Davine. He's not perfect but he would never approve of what Bernie is doing.

I mean I could be eating crow if this line of attack wins him New York lol but if he loses New York after he was making progress (got within 10 points now he's sliding once more) it's all Weaver's fault. He probably also told him to say he doesn't need New York to win either.

When did I claim that it was perfect?

He's still new to the party. He joined in November of last year. He is new to the party. He may fall more in line with them politically, but in terms of supporting the party and helping other Democrats get into public positions on all levels of government, he is new. I don't see how you can argue against that.

Note: When someone in this thread, or outside of it, says Bernie is not a Democrat, that does NOT mean that we are saying that Bernie is not liberal or progressive.

People shouldn't have to register to vote, f*ck the establishment! I'm sure Hillary came up with this!

You say he attacks the party when in reality it is more frustration that exists within the party. A lot of the base feel the party isn't as progressive as it claims, doesn't fight harder, and doesn't stand up to the corruption in politics. It's supposed to be the party of the people but still has big money influence. If anything, Bernie is helping the party by trying to transform it into a party with a much clearer and stronger message other than simply "let's move forward" and "at least we're better than the republicans".

And Bernie's wife told Rachel Maddow that he's done down ticket stuff for Dems before. I don't remember what it was off the top of my head but she mentioned it. It was something about writing letters for them, I believe.

And his supporters wonder why his big rallies aren't translating into votes.

I think it's pretty embarrassing though that you had to change back in October to vote lol

I think that's fair, but he is coming off way too aggressive with his message, in my opinion. To me, if he wants to get this message across, he shouldn't be suing the party and talking about its corruption openly in the way he has been. If he wants to improve it and rejuvenate it, then antagonizing them is not the appropriate way to go. I'm not even a hardcore Democrat, I was going to register as Independent, but there's no point since my state has closed primaries, so I registered with the Democrats 2 years ago to save myself the trouble of having to do it later.

Hmm... Do you have a link?

I feel like primaries, in general, should be open. Not because it benefits Bernie but because what if you're a republican and you see the trash they're offering on their side? You're basically told to either vote for them or stay home.

You should be able to vote for whoever you want.

The whole primary needs changed in general. Caucuses need to go, all primaries need to be open, super-delegates need to go (they're making the party look bad this time around), and the states that vote first need to be changed. Iowa being first is just .

Exactly

This is what I was trying to say.

I hate that mentality from the Bernie crowd. If Republicans succeed in making it to the White House, we'll know who to blame.