Exactly! They demand things of Hillary that they do not demand from their own candidate! It's insane!

General election polls in April have been correct 67% of the time. They're not as unreliable as you guys keep saying.

And common sense because the Republicans haven't even touched Bernie yet. There's a reason they haven't said a single negative thing about him. They want him to be the nominee so they can tear him apart in the general.

So they're wrong one out of every three elections? They've been right the last two so...

No Marvin. They are not reliable. They have been right getting the winner right (but you got a 50-50 shot at that so the fact that it's only been correct 67% of the time is pretty lousy) but in terms of margins and individual states going to particular candidates, there is almost no correlation. Meaning anyone who tries using that as an argument is a political hack who takes polls at face value and can't critically think about said polls. There are just too many variables not accounted in those polls

It's why you will never see any reputable publication talk about why polls matter this far out. They don't

That's an average that takes data from like 1960 - present (if I remember correctly, can't find the link I saw it at).

Exactly! Susan Sarandon's "principled" vote for Nader in 2000 led to eight years of George Bush, but of course she didn't feel any of the effects of that because of her status and privilege. It's easy to take some principled high ground when nothing is at risk for you personally!

Those polls are meaningless this far back! But if you're that dependent on them, recent ones show Cruz and Trump sliding back and Hillary pulling forward.





And ok, fair enough! I'm glad you got to vote! But I meant that more in a general way for supporters of his that have been going around online spreading that exact sentiment. I think its a very small percentage that would actually impact the vote in Nov. anyways.

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That's just it though, the movement behind the Bernie campaign isn't looking for party unification. It's looking for PEOPLE unification, but I digress. I'm over party politics. *sigh* I hope if Hillary gets the nomination/wins the Presidency, she at least considers the movement behind Bernie and why it became so popular. *sigh*

Look, I know that since that's the rhetoric Bernie has been running on since the beginning its hard to see outside of it, but creating this kind of tension within a party is such a dangerous thing to do. Its how fringe groups are created that end up destroying parties from the inside out, and many loyal democrats would be damned if they allowed that to happen. Also, co-opting the national stage the democratic party provides with the purpose of tearing the party up is exactly the same kind of tactics Bernie says he's against. Its just pushing his agenda and his beliefs of where he thinks the party should be headed. And I'm not saying that's a bad thing per se, its just that he's playing dirty now that he's realizing the support isn't there to make that kind of a drastic change over night. It shows a lack of patience and planning.

Like how can you say those polls matter when we don't have two candidates? When we don't have running mates? When attack ads for the GE are out (which have been shown to sink poll numbers)? Scandals can sink campaigns (Swift Boat-esque)

Like it's good to look at on the surface but putting all your chips onto something that has proved, time and time again, to be unreliable just doesn't make any lick of sense.

You're the only person I've ever said that to because I can tell your more anti-Hillary than you are pro-anything so I am definitely not wasting any more campaigning time on that!

Thank you for talking sense, Rated!

They're both horrible candidates, and their record unfavorable ratings prove it.

Hillary has to be one of the most spoofed people on SNL. Amy Poehler's Hillary >>>>>>>

And Bernie's favorability ratings keep slipping with each passing week. It's the cost of being a highly-known public figure.

The Republicans have probably mentioned Bernie 5 times during the primaries lol