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Originally posted by Javan
The southern states are not being dismissed because they are white. They are being dismissed because they have been red states for decades...
Imma need for you whites to retire the race card, PRONTO 
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This dismissal of the southern voters as if we never voted blue since the 60's or 70's must end.
Last time a Democrat won Virginia = 2012 (Back-to-back General Elections)
Last time a Democrat won Florida = 2012 (Back-to-back General Elections)
Last time a Democrat won North Carolina = 2008 (2 general elections ago)
Last time a Democrat won Louisiana = 1996 (Bill won it in '92 and '96)
Last time a Democrat won Arkansas = 1996 (Bill won it in '92 and '96)
Last time a Democrat won Tennessee = 1996 (Bill won it in '92 and '96)
Last time a Democrat won Kentucky = 1996 (Bill won it in '92 and '96)
Last time a Democrat won Georgia = 1992 (Has become a legit purple state these days)
FYI, Hillary had more votes in Louisiana than Trump, Cruz, and almost all of Rubio's votes combined. There were more Democratic voters than Republicans. My state actually may be purple again like it was in the 80's and 90's (when we would swing either way). Georgia has been trending to the middle lately and has become a legit purple state with Virginia and North Carolina as of late.
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States that voted Blue in 2012 General with 2016 Primary Season
(Iowa) - 23 delegates for Hillary and 21 delegates for Bernie
(New Hampshire) - 9 delegates for Hillary and 15 delegates for Bernie
(Nevada) - 20 delegates for Hillary and 15 delegates for Bernie
(Colorado) - 28 delegates for Hillary and 38 delegates for Bernie
(Massachusetts) - 46 delegates for Hillary and 45 delegates for Bernie
(Minnesota) - 31 delegates for Hillary and 46 delegates for Bernie
(Vermont) - 0 delegates for Hillary and 16 delegates for Bernie
(Virginia) - 62 delegates for Hillary and 33 delegates for Bernie
(Maine) - 9 delegates for Hillary and 16 delegates for Bernie
(Michigan) - 63 delegates for Hillary and 67 delegates for Bernie
(Florida) - 141 delegates for Hillary and 73 delegates for Bernie
(Illinois) - 78 delegates for Hillary and 78 delegates for Bernie
(Ohio) - 81 delegates for Hillary and 62 delegates for Bernie
(Hawaii) 8 delegates for Hillary and 17 delegates for Bernie
(Washington) 27 delegates for Hillary and 74 delegates for Bernie
Total for Hillary - 626 delegates (7 blue states won)
Total for Bernie - 616 delegates (8 blue states won)
Popular vote would favor Hillary
If you count the territories who can on vote in the primaries and not the general
(American Samoa) - 4 delegates for Hillary and 2 delegates for Bernie
(Northern Marianas) - 4 delegates for Hillary and 2 delegates for Bernie
(Democrats Abroad) - 4 delegates for Hillary and 9 delegates for Bernie
Total for Hillary - 638 delegates (9 blue states/territories won)
Total for Bernie - 629 delegates (9 blue states/territories won)
Popular vote would favor Hillary
Even with the "BLUE" states, Hillary is edging him out in 2/3 big categories (Popular vote and pledged delegate count).
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Originally posted by RihRihGirrrl
Why is this even an argument lol as if traditionally blue states are gonna swing red in the general election. The really question is, which one of the two candidates have won more swing states in the primaries
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Traditional swing states for the longest that hold the most importance has always been Ohio and Florida. Those states voted Hillary by overwhelming numbers.
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Originally posted by jpow
Looking at all the states Obama won in 2008
States
Colorado - Bernie
Florida - Hillary
Hawaii - Bernie
Illinois - Hillary
Iowa - Hillary
Maine - Bernie
Massachusetts - Hillary
Michigan - Bernie
Minnesota - Bernie
Nevada - Hillary
New Hampshire - Bernie
North Carolina - Hillary
Ohio - Hillary
Vermont - Bernie
Virginia - Hillary
Washington - Bernie | Hillary/Bernie Delegates
28 / 38
141 / 73
8 / 17
78 / 78
23 / 21
9 / 16
46 / 45
63 / 67
31 / 46
20 / 15
9 / 15
60 / 47
81 / 62
0 / 16
62 / 33
27 / 74 |
Total Delegates - 686 / 663
So taking out ALL of the states that Bernie supporters say have no chance in going blue in November, Hillary STILL has a delegate lead.
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I thought of doing 2008, but I did 2012 instead. Just to go off of the most recent election results.