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Discussion: U.S. Election 2016: Primary Season
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I lied, he won one closed primary, democrats abroad  . Though I technically meant a state or territory, and democrats abroad isn't really...either
So I guess I didn't lie!
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Member Since: 11/15/2009
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Originally posted by RatedG²
I lied, he won one closed primary, democrats abroad  . Though I technically meant a state or territory, and democrats abroad isn't really...either
So I guess I didn't lie!
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He is totally ****ed when it comes to caucuses  The only closed caucuses left are in tiny states + territories (and she will win Puerto Rico, the biggest). There are no more open caucuses, which he dominated.
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Can't wait to see Hillary stumping the halls again with her good friend, Charlie Rangle in New York. Charlie is one of the biggest reasons Hillary first ran for her first political office (Senator of New York) back in 2000. He kept encouraging her to make the move after she resisted for awhile. I believe he's retiring from politics this year so this would be a such a lovely sendoff to see a good friend of his, who he encouraged to purse a public office, get elected as President.

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I cannot WAIT for Hills to win DC by 80+ points. Closed primary + African-Americans + White gay male "establishment" 
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Originally posted by @michael
He is totally ****ed when it comes to caucuses  The only closed caucuses left are in tiny states + territories (and she will win Puerto Rico, the biggest). There are no more open caucuses, which he dominated.
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I really wish that they would just make Puerto Rico our 51st state. They want it and most of us would love to seem them properly join the country as a contributing state. Though several Republicans aren't here for it due to the debt crisis they're experiencing at the moment due to failed finance practices. I'm amused that Puerto Rico has more pledged delegates than some of the actual states in the country 
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Originally posted by foxaylove
I really wish that they would just make Puerto Rico our 51st state. They want it and most of us would love to seem them properly join the country as a contributing state. Though several Republicans aren't here for it due to the debt crisis they're experiencing at the moment due to failed finance practices. I'm amused that Puerto Rico has more pledged delegates than some of the actual states in the country 
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Plus, Puerto Rico would most likely add 2 Democratic senators in Congress 
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I just do not have the energy to wait 3 hours to see Bernie, sorry sis you're getting my vote next week regardless 
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Originally posted by @michael
Plus, Puerto Rico would most likely add 2 Democratic senators in Congress 
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Not just that, house of representatives AND electoral college votes in a general election. US Territories can vote in primaries for political parties, but not in the general election. It would be another blow to the GOP to worry about in the math game.
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Originally posted by foxaylove
Not just that, house of representatives AND electoral college votes in a general election. US Territories can vote in primaries for political parties, but not in the general election. It would be another blow to the GOP to worry about in the math game.
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I think the only way the Republicans would allow them to become a state is if the PR representatives in the House were taken from already-Democratic seats. This article gives a hypothetical scenario that Florida, Washington, Texas, California, and Minnesota would be the states that lost a representative, and all of those states have several Democratic house members 
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Originally posted by foxaylove
Can't wait to see Hillary stumping the halls again with her good friend, Charlie Rangle in New York. Charlie is one of the biggest reasons Hillary first ran for her first political office (Senator of New York) back in 2000. He kept encouraging her to make the move after she resisted for awhile. I believe he's retiring from politics this year so this would be a such a lovely sendoff to see a good friend of his, who he encouraged to purse a public office, get elected as President.

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City Hall is behind her as well here. The City Council Speaker, along with the Public Advocate (position under mayor) are gonna campaign with her.
deBlasio endorsed her but I feel like deep down he's a Sanders supporter. If he endorsed him, Clintonworld would stop his re-election bid in 2017. 
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Originally posted by Marvin
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Did you buy the paper? I wonder what the article says I'm curious 
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Trumps CNN town hall last night
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On nuclear weapon proliferation:
COOPER: Let's talk about nuclear issues because you talked about this in a really interesting article in The New York Times.
TRUMP: One of the very, very big issues. I think maybe the biggest issue of our time.
COOPER: That's what you said to The New York Times. You said you worried about the proliferation of nuclear weapons…
TRUMP: Right.
COOPER: … the most. You also said, though, that you might support Japan and South Korea developing nuclear weapons of their own. Isn't that completely contradictory?
TRUMP: No, not at all. Look, you have North Korea has nuclear weapons. And he doesn't have a carrier yet but he has got nuclear weapons. He soon will have. We don't want to pull the trigger. We're just -- you know, we have a president, frankly, that doesn't -- nobody is afraid of our president. Nobody respects our president.
You take a look at what's going on throughout the world. It's not the country that it was.
COOPER: But if you're concerned about proliferation, letting other countries get nuclear weapons, isn't that proliferation?
TRUMP: No, no. We owe $19 $trillion, we have another $2 trillion because of the very, very bad omnibus budget that was just signed. It's a disgrace, which gives everything that Obama wanted. We get nothing. They get everything.
So that's going to be $21 trillion. We are supporting nations now, militarily, we are supporting nations like Saudi Arabia which was making during the good oil days which was a year ago, now they're making less but still a lot, $1 billion a day.
We are supporting them, militarily, and pay us a fraction, a fraction of what they should be paying us and of the cost. We are supporting Japan. Most people didn't even know that. Most people didn't know that we are taking care of Japan's military needs. We're supporting…
(CROSSTALK)
TRUMP: Excuse me, excuse me, we're supporting Germany. We're supporting South Korea. I order thousands of television sets because I am in the real estate business, you know, in my other life, OK.
COOPER: It has been a U.S. policy for decades to prevent Japan from getting a nuclear weapon.
TRUMP: That might be policy, but maybe…
COOPER: South Korea as well.
TRUMP: Can I be honest are you? Maybe it's going to have to be time to change, because so many people, you have Pakistan has it, you have China has it. You have so many other countries are now having it…
COOPER: So some proliferation is OK?
TRUMP: No, no, not proliferation. I hate nuclear more than any. My uncle was a professor was at MIT, used to (AUDIO GAP) nuclear, he used to tell me about the problem.
COOPER: But that's contradictory about Japan and South Korea.
TRUMP: (AUDIO GAP) Iran is going to have it very -- within…
COOPER: But that's proliferation.
TRUMP: Excuse me, one of the dumbest I've ever seen signed ever, ever, ever by anybody, Iran is going to have it within 10 years. Iran is going to have it. I thought it was a very good interview in The New York Times.
COOPER: So you have no problem with Japan and South Korea having…
TRUMP: I thought…
(CROSSTALK)
COOPER: … nuclear weapons.
TRUMP: At some point we have to say, you know what, we're better off if Japan protects itself against this maniac in North Korea, we're better off, frankly, if South Korea is going to start to protect itself, we have…
COOPER: Saudi Arabia, nuclear weapons?
TRUMP: Saudi Arabia, absolutely.
COOPER: You would be fine with them having nuclear weapons?
TRUMP: No, not nuclear weapons, but they have to protect themselves or they have to pay us.
Here's the thing, with Japan, they have to pay us or we have to let them protect themselves.
COOPER: So if you said, Japan, yes, it's fine, you get nuclear weapons, South Korea, you as well, and Saudi Arabia says we want them, too?
TRUMP: Can I be honest with you? It's going to happen, anyway. It's going to happen anyway. It's only a question of time. They're going to start having them or we have to get rid of them entirely.
But you have so many countries already, China, Pakistan, you have so many countries, Russia, you have so many countries right now that have them.
Now, wouldn't you rather in a certain sense have Japan have nuclear weapons when North Korea has nuclear weapons? And they do have them. They absolutely have them. They can't -- they have no carrier system yet but they will very soon.
Wouldn't you rather have Japan, perhaps, they're over there, they're very close, they're very fearful of North Korea, and we're supposed to protect.
COOPER: So you're saying you don't want more nuclear weapons in the world but you're OK with Japan and South Korea having nuclear weapons?
TRUMP: I don't want more nuclear weapons.
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QUESTION: In your opinion, what are the top three functions of the United States government?
TRUMP: Well, the greatest function of all by far is security for our nation. I would also say health care, I would also say education. I mean, there are many, many things, but I would say the top three are security, security, security.
We have to have security for our country so that we can continue to exist as a country. We are in danger. Thousands and thousands of people are infiltrating our country. We don’t know who they are.
There’s a very vicious world. We’re living in a very vicious world and we’re doing something that is against a lot of very smart people’s wishes. I can tell you, it’s totally against my wishes.
COOPER: So top three, you’re saying, security.
TRUMP: Security. I say all top three are security, but health care, education, would be probably three that would be top. And then you can go on from there.
But the military and the secure country, so that we have a country. Believe me, we’ve never been in a position, in my opinion, where our country is so vulnerable. Our military is being eaten away.
When General Odierno left recently, a year ago, I was watching him on maybe your show, one of the shows, and he said that the United States Army, the United States military forces have never been so — and I think he used the word depleted. But basically he said they’re exhausted.
COOPER: So just to follow-up, though…
TRUMP: And that’s a pretty — that’s a pretty sad commentary. And honestly, even though he was retiring at the time — and I had a lot of respect for him, good man, but even though he was leaving at the time, people shouldn’t say that because you’re giving the enemy ideas.
But if I get in, our military will be bigger, better, stronger than ever before. It’s the cheapest thing we can do.
COOPER: So in terms of federal government role, you’re saying security, but you also say health care and education should be provided by the federal government?
TRUMP: Well, those are two of the things. Yes, sure. I mean, there are obviously many things, housing, providing great neighborhoods…
(CROSSTALK)
COOPER: Aren’t you against the federal government’s involvement in education? don’t you want it to devolve to states?
TRUMP: I want it to go to state, yes. Absolutely. I want — right now…
COOPER: So that’s not part of what the federal government’s…
(CROSSTALK)
TRUMP: The federal government, but the concept of the country is the concept that we have to have education within the country, and we have to get rid of common core and it should be brought to the state level.
COOPER: And federal health care run by the federal government?
TRUMP: Health care — we need health care for our people. We need a good — Obamacare is a disaster. It’s proven to be…
COOPER: But is that something the federal government should be doing?
TRUMP: The government can lead it, but it should be privately done. It should be privately done. So that health care — in my opinion, we should probably have — we have to have private health care. We don’t have competition in health care.
The problem that we have in our country is we don’t have competition. It’s made because the politicians — by the way, I’m self-funding. I am self-funding. So the health care companies aren’t taking care of me. But they’re taking care of everyone else.
Wait one second. We don’t have — we don’t have bidding. We don’t have competition in health care. And it’s a disaster. Obamacare, if you take a look at your premiums, they’re going up 35 percent, 45 percent, 55 percent, and the deductibles are so high, you’ll never get to use it.
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What a moron.
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Member Since: 1/8/2011
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Originally posted by RatedG²
Did you buy the paper? I wonder what the article says I'm curious 
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Those are the free newspaper they hand out at the train stations in the morning. 
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Member Since: 8/3/2010
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Originally posted by Haus
I just do not have the energy to wait 3 hours to see Bernie, sorry sis you're getting my vote next week regardless 
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Welp. At least you're voting for him though. Because if all the people that attend his rallies actually vote for him he'd be winning a lot more than he is now
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Member Since: 8/3/2010
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Originally posted by Butters
Trumps CNN town hall last night
What a moron.
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Eww
I'll never understand Trump supporters
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Member Since: 11/15/2009
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I find it odd that Bernie is suddenly reclaiming his "hometown" of Brooklyn, since he moved to Vermont because he was "captivated by rural life" (translation: "I didn't want to live around minorities").
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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I hope hillary and bernie have rallies in pennsylvanina this upcoming month (my home state)! Dont let me down
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by @michael
I find it odd that Bernie is suddenly reclaiming his "hometown" of Brooklyn, since he moved to Vermont because he was "captivated by rural life" (translation: "I didn't want to live around minorities").
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Neither democratic candidates are racist by ANY stretch. Why can't we criticize the opposition within our own party with class and dignity? I prefer Bernie but I will vote Hillary come GE if she gets nominated and I'd hope u feel the same vice versa
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Member Since: 1/20/2012
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Originally posted by RatedG²
Did you buy the paper? I wonder what the article says I'm curious 
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No I don't live in NYC  I found it on Reddit
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Originally posted by iamvladd
Those are the free newspaper they hand out at the train stations in the morning. 
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Free promo is the best promo 
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