Bernie is an idealist, and because of that, he has more views that I agree with than Hillary
But being an idealist is also an issue. Congress is going to tear him apart. The things he promises are things I would like, but they're likely not going to happen if he because president. See: Obama. Congress cut him off at the ankles almost every time.
Hillary, though, while not as agreeable to me as Bernie, is a lot more of a realist, and I think she could make great headway as a president. Sure, I disagree with more of her views, but I think the things she promises that I do agree with are more likely to happen than with Bernie.
Bernie is an idealist, and because of that, he has more views that I agree with than Hillary
But being an idealist is also an issue. Congress is going to tear him apart. The things he promises are things I would like, but they're likely not going to happen if he because president. See: Obama. Congress cut him off at the ankles almost every time.
Hillary, though, while not as agreeable to me as Bernie, is a lot more of a realist, and I think she could make great headway as a president. Sure, I disagree with more of her views, but I think the things she promises that I do agree with are more likely to happen than with Bernie.
So I'm definitely torn between those two.
I don't see that as "torn between the two", you seem to lean towards the Secretary.
Bernie is an idealist, and because of that, he has more views that I agree with than Hillary
But being an idealist is also an issue. Congress is going to tear him apart. The things he promises are things I would like, but they're likely not going to happen if he because president. See: Obama. Congress cut him off at the ankles almost every time.
Hillary, though, while not as agreeable to me as Bernie, is a lot more of a realist, and I think she could make great headway as a president. Sure, I disagree with more of her views, but I think the things she promises that I do agree with are more likely to happen than with Bernie.
So I'm definitely torn between those two.
I think Bernie said something both funny and profound like "if you aim for a cake, you might not get all of it, but you'll probably get a lot of cake. If you aim for half a cake, the most you'll ever get is half a cake".
Even if you think Bernie's policies are overly-ambitious or unfeasible, it's not like he's going to drop all agendas just because he can't get his exact vision passed. He will compromise but in the end I believe he'll be a stronger President than Obama, who made way too many concessions.
At the end of the day, in a congress that is going to be brutal to pretty much any Democrat president, ideals are probably the most important thing you can have.
I think Hillary is the perfect combo. She has Bernie's views, but a more plausible and realistic approach to them. Her college plan is WAY more comprehensive and realistic. Thats why I've convinced most of my college-friends to vote for her. Many hear "free college" and are instantly attracted to Bernie. But his numbers don't add up and they essentially steal from middle-cass-americans to make it happen. Hopefully Hillary capitalizes on that. That's why she continues to draw from the older voters much more than Bernie is able to.
I think I'm more nervous than I am excited. If Hillary wins big, it could mean the end for Bernie... But if he does beat her in 3/5 states, we're in it for a long time... And quite frankly, idk if I can handle that
I think Bernie said something both funny and profound like "if you aim for a cake, you might not get all of it, but you'll probably get a lot of cake. If you aim for half a cake, the most you'll ever get is half a cake".
Even if you think Bernie's policies are overly-ambitious or unfeasible, it's not like he's going to drop all agendas just because he can't get his exact vision passed. He will compromise but in the end I believe he'll be a stronger President than Obama, who made way too many concessions.
At the end of the day, in a congress that is going to be brutal to pretty much any Democrat president, ideals are probably the most important thing you can have.
I like this a lot. I'll be repeating that quote a lot, so thank you for that.
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What your saying sounds like a pretty easy choice to me. You're saying Hillary is going to easily execute plans that you don't agree with
I think Hillary is the perfect combo. She has Bernie's views, but a more plausible and realistic approach to them. Her college plan is WAY more comprehensive and realistic. Thats why I've convinced most of my college-friends to vote for her. Many hear "free college" and are instantly attracted to Bernie. But his numbers don't add up and they essentially steal from middle-cass-americans to make it happen. Hopefully Hillary capitalizes on that. That's why she continues to draw from the older voters much more than Bernie is able to.
dead @ taxes being "stealing" as soon as it goes towards social programs. But it wasn't stealing when it went into wall street's pockets or in subsidies for energy corporations. Ok jan
Bernie is an idealist, and because of that, he has more views that I agree with than Hillary
But being an idealist is also an issue. Congress is going to tear him apart. The things he promises are things I would like, but they're likely not going to happen if he because president. See: Obama. Congress cut him off at the ankles almost every time.
Hillary, though, while not as agreeable to me as Bernie, is a lot more of a realist, and I think she could make great headway as a president. Sure, I disagree with more of her views, but I think the things she promises that I do agree with are more likely to happen than with Bernie.
So I'm definitely torn between those two.
Sounds like me before I cast my vote yesterday in the early voting for Fla. I basically went with my gut feeling as to who was the most likely to get more done in office.
Sounds like me before I cast my vote yesterday in the early voting for Fla. I basically went with my gut feeling as to who was the most likely to get more done in office.
Hillary is bringing realism to Bernie's wonderful, big, unachievable goals. She does agree with the views of Bernie, but not the specific plans. So how can you not share her views?
It's just that I agree more with Bernie, and I don't want to count him out, but I fear about what he can actually get done.
I know that Hillary can get things done, but I don't necessarily agree with everything she would be doing.
Eh.
Lemme go flip some coins.
If you agree with more of Bernie, you should vote for him. The current Congress won't work with Hillary either. They barely worked with Obama and Republicans hate her more than him. Bernie was called the Amendment King because of how much he was able to get done in Congress with both Democrats and Republicans.
This is the primary, not the general election. Vote for your favorite candidate because now is when they need your support. You seem to willing to vote for either one in the general election, so don't base your vote on that right now.
And anyone who says Bernie is unelectable is lying. He's doing better in the polls against Trump than Hillary.
alksdmal. How have I not seen this before. She's basically saying she's staying in the race because Obama might get assassinated. I can not be hearing this right
I think Hillary is the perfect combo. She has Bernie's views, but a more plausible and realistic approach to them. Her college plan is WAY more comprehensive and realistic. Thats why I've convinced most of my college-friends to vote for her. Many hear "free college" and are instantly attracted to Bernie. But his numbers don't add up and they essentially steal from middle-cass-americans to make it happen. Hopefully Hillary capitalizes on that. That's why she continues to draw from the older voters much more than Bernie is able to.
These lies Taxes are not stealing from people.
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Clinton's New College Compact plan costs in the range of $350 billion over 10 years and will be fully paid for by closing tax loopholes and expenditures for the most fortunate.
And how is this any more comprehensive or realistic?
I volunteer to take it.
