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Discussion: Is Britney's Toxic a classic?
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Originally posted by phatty033
so you're saying come on over & What a girl wants are bigger classics than beautiful because they peaked at #1 
lol at toxic only being remembered on atrl and beautiful when:
YT: Toxic>Beautiful
Spotify: Toxic>Beautiful
Memorability: Toxic>Beautiful
Not to mention Britney hasn't performed it outside of her concerts in over a decade while Xtina performs Beautiful at almost every function she's invited to  |
She performs it every night in her Vegas show
Beautiful is a staple at voice competitions to this day and is respected as an LGBT anthem. Virtually nobody plays or knows Toxic anymore.
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Originally posted by Aguilegend
What do YT views have to do with songs being classics? 
Several classics don't have much views on YT. Are you saying Toxic is more of a classic than Like A Virgin or Frank Sinatra's several signature songs, which have low view counts on YouTube? |
comparing a song released in the 80s to songs released in the early 2000s? 
toxic & beautiful are much closer in release dates than LAV
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Originally posted by Aguilegend
She performs it every night in her Vegas show
Beautiful is a staple at voice competitions to this day and is respected as an LGBT anthem. Virtually nobody plays or knows Toxic anymore. |
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Top 20 YT Streams in 2016 by Pop Girls, released before 2010
I Will Always Love You - 55,353,594 total views
My Heart Will Go On - 50,802,235 total views
Halo - 43,457,820 total views
Bad Romance - 36,192,051
Single Ladies - 33,238,261 total views
You Belong With Me - 33,608,703 total views
Hot N Cold - 32,925,937 total views
Hips Don't Lie - 24,104,206 total views
Poker Face - 23,497,244 total views
Crazy in Love - 23,069,022 total views
Toxic - 20,331,395 total views
...Baby One More Time - 20,209,010 total views
If I Were a Boy - 19,905,171 total views
Party in the USA - 17,863,299 total views
La Tortura - 16,425,324 total views
Whenever, Wherever - 14,709,697 total views
I Have Nothing - 14,318,221 total views
Because You Loved Me - 13,426,944 total views
Make You Feel My Love - 13,426,860 total views
Hero - 13,391,467 total views
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Where do these views come from then?
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Originally posted by Aguilegend
She performs it every night in her Vegas show
Beautiful is a staple at voice competitions to this day and is respected as an LGBT anthem. Virtually nobody plays or knows Toxic anymore. |
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Originally posted by phatty033
Not to mention Britney hasn't performed it outside of her concerts in over a decade while Xtina performs Beautiful at almost every function she's invited to
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it's played on one of the biggest stations in the US, Beautiful isn't AT ALL 
Toxic is also covered multiple times on singing competitions every year, and it's always the highlight of that season ( see: alex & sierra, melanie martinez, etc.) Literally all the receipts are pointing to Toxic>Beautiful
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In a 2005 poll conducted by Sony Ericsson, Toxic was ranked as the world's second favourite song, only behind "We Are The Champions" by Queen. Over 700,000 people in 60 different countries cast their votes.
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Poor everyone.
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Originally posted by AMENHOOKER
Not at all. 'Toxic' is pretty forgotten outside of stan culture. The song isn't in the top 1500 of iTunes.
Actual classics like 'Like a Prayer', 'Crazy in Love', 'Poker Face', 'Umbrella', 'Rolling in the Deep' etc. are.
A classic pop song is one which endures and stands the test of time.
I haven't heard 'Toxic' on the radio or at the club since forever.
Oh, and this was its chart run in America:
53-36-29-22-18-14-11- 10-*9*-11-11- 10-14-17-19-19-37-41-51-56
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Originally posted by AMENHOOKER
The Beatles, Whitney Houston, Michael Jackson and Madonna aren't here either. Are you saying 'Toxic' is more iconic than any of their songs, too, because a radio station in LA played it recently? 
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The song, while fun and catchy, is not iconic outside of Britney fansites like ATRL. |
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Originally posted by AMENHOOKER on songs that deserve to be called iconic
Like A Virgin
Like A Prayer
Vogue
BOMT.
Oops!
Toxic
Poker Face
Bad Romance
Born This Way
Crazy In Love
Single Ladies
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Originally posted by AMENHOOKER on most iconic songs of the 2000s
Crazy in Love. Toxic. Beautiful. We Belong Together. Poker Face.
There are too many that a consensus is simply impossible.
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Originally posted by iheartBrit
Poor everyone.
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Britney ALWAYS wins!
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the EXPOSÉ 
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Originally posted by iheartBrit
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In a 2005 poll conducted by Sony Ericsson, Toxic was ranked as the world's second favourite song, only behind "We Are The Champions" by Queen. Over 700,000 people in 60 different countries cast their votes.
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Poor everyone. |
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Originally posted by phatty033
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Ddd the expose 
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Yeah, the house that Britney built had told me for so long that the song was iconic and I went along and believed it like a fool. 5 years of being told something over and over and over can have that effect, I'm afraid. Having done my own research, I now know that that is not the case. I now know to take certain propaganda with a grain of salt. Love that you keep tabs on my posts, though! 
My stance remains the same; 'Toxic' is not an iconic song!
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Originally posted by AMENHOOKER
Yeah, the house that Britney built had told me for so long that the song was iconic and I went along and believed it like a fool. 5 years of being told something over and over and over can have that effect, I'm afraid. Having done my own research, I now know that that is not the case. I now know to take certain propaganda with a grain of salt. Love that you keep tabs on my posts, though!
My stance remains the same; 'Toxic' is not an iconic song! |
more like you let the recent monster vs. army feud influence your thoughts on Britney ( your other "fave"). This backtracking is so lame though, even you don't believe it. SAVE IT
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Originally posted by iheartBrit
Poor everyone.
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Wow, Toxic is such an acclaimed classic.
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Originally posted by phatty033
more like you let the recent monster vs. army feud influence your thoughts on Britney ( your other "fave"). This backtracking is so lame though, even you don't believe it. SAVE IT |
Why does it bother you so much that I don't see 'Toxic' as an iconic song? Get over it.
Dig up as many old posts as you like, it doesn't change a damn thing.
Very low to make this a personal thing, sweetie. Do you have no other arguments?
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Originally posted by AMENHOOKER
Why does it bother you so much that I don't see 'Toxic' as an iconic song? Get over it.
Dig up as many old posts as you like, it doesn't change a damn thing.
Very low to make this a personal thing, sweetie. Do you have no other arguments?
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Well it just shows how weak you are to let a petty stan war change your views on an artist but you can pretend to think whatever you want, the T has already been spilled 
Anyway what other arguments do you want? We already brought up recurrent views, airplay, covers, etc. all important factors in determining how iconic a song is, while your only argument is... chart peaks.
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