well I guess yeah since Mariah is a legend for pretty much everyone

Yes. If the completely talentless Kardashian klan can be famous for Kim having a sextape, then famous singers who sing off-key deserve to be famous.

If they sing off key consistently, meaning they just can't sing, then they don't deserve their success. If they are just off-key occasionally, that's fine.

pretty much this. you need the whole package to be entertaining. the word singer is so outdated imo, we should start using 'entertainer' instead

No, unless they truly excel at something else

No.

Most of these girls today are just models who have cute sing-along tracks.

I'm not talking about an entertainer I'm talking about someone referring to themselves/or being called a singer


And Mariah having vocal nodes does not erase her history as a singer

As long as it doesnt sound like Rebecca Black

No. Singing on key is a really basic musical ability. If you can't do it, gtfo.

In-key?

Depends. Do they deserve to have the occupational title of 'singer'? No.

Mte

Imagine a mathematician that can't do addition or subtraction, it's such a simple and core aspect of the profession.

Yes, if they make good music.

depends on what else they're good at. do they write? produce? dance?

there hasn't really been anyone like that who has managed to have much success though, even the struggle vocalists have had their good moments.

If you don't possess any talents that make up for that flaw, I think you should find a new profession. Leonard Cohen isn't a great singer, but his songwriting makes up for that.

If they make good music they should think of a title that reflects that. A fast food worker shouldn't call themselves a master chef

NO