Hillary could be wrapping up her 2nd term, and Marvin would still be pressed.

So you're proud of being irrational/immature/tacky? Whatever floats your boat.

The point is that you attacked an entire state as being "the worst one" and called Hillary a felon just because he won...

Technically the 20000th post!

Hillary's margin of victory...good Lord, I didn't think it would be that bad.

Bernie won't and shouldn't be the VP pick, mainly because he's not going to give her a boost. Reasons include:

1. Bernie's supporters are strong liberals that will side with the Democratic candidate regardless. They don't dislike Hillary, they just prefer Bernie. This Hillary hate is just spread by an online vocal minority of BernieBros. Ask anyone voting for Bernie in real life and they'll say they'll vote for whoever ends up as the Democratic nominee.

Look at 08: The primary between Hillary and Obama was even more hotly contested, and yet all of Hillary's supporters flocked to Obama in the GE. Keep in mind Hillary was the more 'left-leaning' candidate at the time.

2. Turnout is down massively in '16 compared to '08. This is because the majority of the Dem base don't care who the nominee is. The race is not competitive and they're willing to vote for either. Totally kills the theory that Bernie is bringing larger voter turnout. Many democrats know the race has been decided and are happy for it to remain that way.

3. The VP should be someone who will give Hillary a boost in the GE. This means someone who can help win a battleground state, or win moderates/independents. Bernie doesn't fit in either of these two categories. He's not a moderate that will attract undecided independents (his independents are leftists who will vote Hillary anyway) and his home advantage is Vermont (which is Blue) and New Hampshire (not big enough to justify a VP pick).

You mean "that good" right?

1. Bernie might be an independent but he's always been more aligned with the democrats. I don't ever recall him aligning himself with any republican policies, etc.

2. VP spot keeps the conversation going and makes Hillary more appealing to the far left and independents. Hillary has had no real message during this campaign. She can adopt Bernie's message by putting him on the ticket. It'll likely be toned down for the general election but both want affordable college, both want better healthcare, etc. Both offer something the other does not have. Hillary is better with FP, with a certain demographic of voters. Bernie is better with his economic message, has an enthusiastic base, and a whole other demographic of voters.

Why else do you think Hillary is sounding more like Bernie? She knows she needs his base. And no there's no guarantee that they'll come out to vote this November no matter who the nominee is. Primary numbers are down (though they're way up from 2000 and 2004) but the GE always brings out more voters on both sides.

I don't know how Bernie can be her VP? Of course the two mostly have the same goals but it would force Bernie to get on board with Hillary's policies right? Idk, man

1. BernieBros is not a good excuse to use considering a lot of Bernie's base is also younger women, somewhere Clinton is losing.

2. Turnout is up massively from 2000 and 2004. 2008 was a historic year with Obama. It's a bit unfair to use those numbers in this primary. (Clinton is also a historic candidate but she's been in the public eyes for 25 years now and has run before).

3. Bernie would absolutely bring independents.

Everyone assuming that people will vote for Hillary no matter what. There really are some democrats who legit hate the Clinton's and this primary has not helped her in that regards.

That bad for Bernie, I mean.

One of the worst, which is my opinion and has been long before this presidential race even started. The felon thing was obviously a joke but it's not a stretch to say that she could potentially go to jail for one of the emails. They haven't all been released. Either way, it was a JOKE.

You guys are taking this way too seriously. I already congratulated her. We already knew she was gonna win SC.

Like...

Sanders spent 2 million on TV in South Carolina and still lost by those margins I don't see a delegate path for Sanders, but he definitely put up a better fight then I would have ever anticipated

It's happened before where the VP and president have shared different ideas in the primaries but found common ground on a joint ticket.

Reagan picked George Bush as his VP because he was a threat in the primaries at first. It's usually common sense.

wow Hillary literally won every county in SC

George Bush wasn't Reagan's preferred choice for VP

They're unbearable tbh, not sure why some are acting like Hillary has already been elected president. She has a long way to go. Hillary needs to pick someone that has youth & independent appeal; someone that gets people motivated.

I don't want Bernie to be her VP pick though. It'd feel like a slap in the face.

1. Younger women who wouldn't mind voting for Clinton. You can't argue that the base is divided when most of the voters would vote for either candidate.

2. 2008 was amazing, but that doesn't change the fact that Bernie isn't bringing in the required turnouts to justify his 'political revolution'. Turn-out for voters under 25 was incredibly low in SC. His message is simply not resonating as much as you'd like.

3. Bernie is too far to the left to bring in MODERATE independents. Those are the ones that win elections.

Exactly my point. It's good politics.

I wish all of the primaries were at the same time. It's so ridiculous that my state doesn't vote until June. It makes us feel like our votes don't matter.