I'm sorry to hear about that awful situation but just because YOU personally took immediate action, doesn't mean every other victim of sexual assault is going to do the same thing, the facts/statistics prove it.

I'm ****ing over people using THIS as evidence. People lie under oath all the ****ing time, for a number of reasons. You are just choosing to believe her words THEN over her words NOW. I am damn sure she would swear under oath that he raped her, which means she lied at some point or another, which isn't a good thing but its ****ing ridiculous and hypocritical to believe what she said THEN and not NOW just because its more convenient for Lukes case.

Stop ****ing twisting my words. Sure she wanted to be successful and famous, that was her lifelong dream. Money never meant as much to her as most other celebrities, she grew up poor as **** and she was very content with having little money. Her mum was a musician and she grew up around music, combine that with her talent and of course she wanted to make it big. Maybe if you tried putting yourself in her shoes you would start to understand. Many women have denied being sexually assaulted/abused/raped just because of the fact they were in denial/didn't want to admit. I don't understand why you think its unreasonable for her to feel like she had to do the same thing, especially when it was her lifelong dream career on the line. Its just ****ing insensitive to boil this down to her wanting to be rich/fame *****. If that was the case she would of released more albums under Luke before coming clean/coming clean at all. Although I stand by the fact that 100% believing any party is wrong until there is more evidence (even though in rape there is usually hardly any evidence), you're opinion is disgusting af presuming she was doing it for the money and fame. ****ing read into her backstory a bit and you'd see this.

If this is true I think some of y'all owe him an apology for the accusations of rape

How many times do I have to explain to people that girls SOMETIMES lie about being raped?

Just admit it everybody. NOBODY here knows what really happened. It IS POSSIBLE that Dr. Luke didn't actually rape her. Let's all shut up and not take sides and let the professionals sort this out.

Dr. Luke might have raped Ke$ha. Dr. Luke might not have raped Ke$ha. Ke$ha might be lying. Ke$ha might be telling the truth. That should be EVERY RATIONAL PERSON's opinion on this matter, because we DON'T KNOW yet.

Accusing people of rape (or murder, pedophillia, etc.) is a huge deal. You can't go around calling someone a rapist or murderer unless you have proof of it. If you do, you could potentially ruin an innocent person's life.

The "facts/statistics" don't "prove" Kesha's case.



You're trying to justify this case from an emotional perspective. A court can't intervene based on a hunch or someone's emotional state, they can only assess evidence objectively, and I think that's very difficult for people to understand, especially when these type of situations involve someone they are emotionally attached to. Yes, she may have lied about not being raped (if she actually was raped), but lying under oath only puts her at a major disadvantage in her case in terms of legality.

We can't pick and choose when and how we want the judicial system to work when it's convenient. It's all or nothing, and unfortunately sometimes that means people don't get the justice they deserve based on that fact that no evidence was provided.



I'm glad that you agree that charging any party is wrong until there is sufficient evidence, but as die-hard of a Kesha stan as you are, that doesn't mean you know her based on what she's said in the past or how her story was presented to you. Saying she's a "good person" or "she was content with little money" is a strawman argument that won't hold.

When people are placed in situations of stress and fear, they can say and do things that are "out of character". Bottom line is, whatever happens in this case, it really doesn't matter what anybody believes, it comes down to what can be proven. And unfortunately, for people who are truly victims of rape, justice doesn't always work in their favor.

These comments. Again, why do y'all hate women so much?

And that why he will win, Too much time went by. Also it won't be in her favor that she continued her career, becoming this pop icon, making millions

We have heard this story
The backup dancer with big dreams says yes to the producer and get put in the front


I am not saying this is this case, I actuly do belive her, but BECASUE she didn't report it immediately there direct evidence of such abuse does not exist, so Yes most likely she will loose

But unlike murder there is no way to prove a rape happened, especially if it wasnt reported straight away. Its a thin line; sure you can say its unfair to accuse someone of doing it without evidence but at the same time you can't presume she is lying because there is no evidence. I know thats what you were trying to say but rape and murder are very different.

You're whole argument is that the law is purely based on objectivity and facts which is correct but the thing you don't understand is that the world/society does not operate like that. That is where the law fails to serve justice to victims of these crimes. I know its impossible and unreasonable for every case in the world to be judged based of morals and personal motives and emotions but that doesn't mean they shouldnt be taken into account.

I am a die-hard Kesha stan, that is correct, but there is a reason I stan for her, and I barely even listen to her music now. I like to think that I personally have good morals, and the reason I adore her and look up to her so much is because I know enough about her/her history to know she is a decent and genuine person; it may sound naive and foolish but I believe I know her more than you or any other non-stan would, and its not just a knowledge and connection based on her mainstream image and portrayal. I have followed her since 2009, I have read every article, every interview, every candid fan meeting. There is a reason I believe Kesha, there is a reason why most of the GP believe Kesha. And theres a reason why Luke's reputation is ruined, which is purely because he reputation was sketchy as **** to begin with.

The law isnt the be all and end all and I can point out countless cases in history that prove it. Facts are facts sure but saying there is no evidence of rape doesn't prove Luke is innocent anymore than he is guilty. I will always stand by her and that may mean I am biased towards her but the fact of the matter is you shouldn't be accusing her of lying anymore than I shouldnt be accusing him of raping her (which is what you are doing). Plus the results of the injunction were purely to determine if Kesha should be released from her contract, and whether you are on Luke's side or Kesha's side I honestly think you would find it hard to come up with one reason why her and Luke/sony should still be working together, which is what I, other Kesha stans, the plethora of female/male celebrities and the majority of the GP are trying to argue. You will notice very few of them actually accuse Luke or raping her because there is little evidence, but they have enough common sense to know that there is no reason why they should have to work together.

So I'll say it again.

Why did she lie ?
She prefered money to her freedom ?
It's weird that she started this **** after she flopped.
I'm not saying that Dr. Luke is a saint. But we are nobody to judge. The court is the one who must make the decision.
And some stars are looking for attention supporting her, when they were working with rapers and ppl who abuse children, and they are nobody to judge too.

Just keep it clean and wait for the court decision. But when u broke the oath court has an opinion about you already. It will be hard to fight with Dr Luke when it is word vs word and she already lied.

I wasn't making an argument for Luke, I was simply stating how this case is going to be evaluated. I know how the world operates. I know how rape is a humiliating, painful, and horrifying experience. My point was that the American judicial system doesn't evaluate cases based on how the world and society operates. Hypothetically, they can't use statistics and say 50% of rapes go unreported and flip a coin and decide 50/50 chance whether some gets convicted for rape. And although human psyche is similar across the board, people can't ignore the fact that Ke$ha isn't an outlier in these statistics. Most rape victims don't have a $60 million dollar contract on the table. And like I said, I never said Luke wasn't guilty, nor did say he wasn't innocent. I was trying to help people understand why this case isn't working in Kesha's favor.

Morals, personal motives, and any other subjective measures are only taken into account when these cases are sent to trial with a jury, which truthfully, probably wouldn't help her (especially considering that lying under oath is a serious disadvantage that Luke's lawyers would constantly hammer on). Ke$ha would need a damn good lawyer to paint Luke as a monster, because if people are hoping that instances like Luke demanding a table at restaurant is going to get her contract broken, then they are hopeless.

And I realize all of this sounds depressing and I do feel for Kesha as it must suck being tied to a contract that you want out of, but I'm keeping this realistic. The best way for Kesha to get out of this would be to negotiate some deal with Sony and would likely involve paying off the contract. If they invested $60 million in her for six albums, I doubt they're just going to let that much money fly out the window unless they feel like it's a better move for their PR and reputation.

I just don't get their plan. Keep her, AND? If she doesn't record/release songs she's not doing them any good. By releasing her they would seem like good guys.

She tried to get out of the contract less than a year after she was signed. Look at @kelleylocke's tweets. She basically created a timeline

I hope they cut Luke's label loose. It just isn't viable anymore because no one is going to work with him after this; ideally there's a way to move Kesha to another label and let him sink.

Morals aside, from a business standpoint there is still money to be had in Kesha but not in Luke. The court of public opinion has already found him overwhelmingly guilty.

People will stilt work with him

What "court of public opinion"?

You guys are really overestimating a couple of teenagers tweeting #FreeKesha as the liberation movement of our generation. If Chris Brown can still have a career and Top 10 hits after beating a famous Pop female's face in, you really think Luke, a straight white man is going to get blacklisted because of an unproven rape accusation?

If Kesha fans want to put pressure on Sony, they would need to start a viral BOYCOTT, meaning they would convince the general public to stop purchasing Sony products and cause damage to Sony's revenue. And to be quite honest, I'm not sure if Kesha is big enough to rally that level of support without the help of bigger celebrities. If these female artists want to prove they're feminists, they would be doing alot more than sending out tweets.