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Celeb News: "If Adele was black, nobody would care"
Member Since: 2/8/2012
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Originally posted by cypriotpcdfan
And that's okay?
So if Adele releases the same song as Nicole, radios will play the song because Adele, yet they won't play Nicole. So it's not about the song or the music, it's about the artist.
Y'all keep saying that like it's ok. IT'S NOT OKAY.
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Of course it's okay.
Adele and Taylor are more popular. They've had career defining hits and highs. It's the way stardom works. Some win, some lose. You can't complain about Nicole losing like it's some big injustice. She's just not popular. 
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Member Since: 8/31/2012
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Originally posted by Gui Blackout
No offense but some black people are so bitter at successful white women (see also Taylor, J.Law, etc)
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yeah. you don't see white artists complaining about the Beyonce circlejerk or the Shonda Rhimes or Empire worship
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Member Since: 3/27/2012
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Originally posted by TikiMiss
how many white people are where Adele is right now?
Even Taylor Swift isn't on Adele's level, and there aren't many white or black versions of Taylor either.
The presumption that white = easy to make it big, would suggest that Adele is just one of many many white girls dominating the game right now and that's simply not true.
on the flip side, could I argue that Michael Jackson being white would have made him less successful? Because evidence seems to suggest he sold his most albums when his skin wasn't white.
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wow.
Let’s start from the front.
It doesn’t matter how much more Taylor and Adele are than other white girls, what matters is that if you changed their skin colour to black, would they sell 100% of the records they do now? That’s the privilege they have. Even a 10% dip is a huge chunk for them, in 21’s case, that would be 3 million copies. People are racist. That’s not even a question. You can so easily see that in the way that people are freaking out about, threatening boycotts, getting their fragile privileged panties in a bunch that Beyoncé saying “Don’t Shoot Us” and referencing a group founded in the name of black defence means she’s racist herself.
K.Michelle is using hyperbole. Of course Adele with the same music would be successful as a black woman but it wouldn’t have the same type of success, not to mention that all the most of the successful black females have been attractive and slender with Euro-features (Whitney, Mariah, Beyoncé, Rihanna, Alicia Keys, etc.) Examples could be made to support that successful black females who were not regarded for their beauty have always existed like Aretha, for example, but even then, that was the pre-MTV. Then you have examples like Patti LaBelle who released If You Ask Me to in 1989 with a peak position of #79. A few years later Celine Dion covers it with pretty much the same arrangement and it peaks at #4. What’s the difference here?
And now: Michael Jackson was never white.
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Member Since: 7/24/2008
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Originally posted by TikiMiss
yes, because they built up their fanbases and their name brands, whereas Nicole didn't and Becky G didn't neither.
Nicole and Becky and the rest of them could have built up their brands. Look at Meghan Trainor popping out of nowhere and slaying. Them not doing it, doesn't mean it's unfair that Adele took years building a massive fanbase.
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I'm not talking about Adele. As i said, Adele deserves ALL the success she gets. I'm talking about radio playing whoever they want to play, whether it's racism, ageism, sexism or payola.
How is Nicole or Becky or ANY Becky suppose to built a brand and a fanbase if radios don't push her songs?
Especially Nicole. Radios have been snubbing her for years and she has released better songs that a lot of all these 'smashes'.
Songs like Run and Don't Hold Your Breath should have been HUGE especially on the radio.
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
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Originally posted by Gui Blackout
No offense but some black people are so bitter at successful white women (see also Taylor, J.Law, etc)
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All the C-list black artists are pulling the race card right now, to rely their failure in something.
There are many black artists like Rihanna, Whitney, Beyonce, Jay Z, Mariah, Kanye etc etc that are way way more successful than the majority of the white ones.
The ones whining are just a failure and they make **** music no one cares about.
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Originally posted by swissman
But privilege is when you have two people of equal standing, and one person has an easier time and is more likely to find success. So it doesn't matter that Adele came from nothing and made it, the fact that she is white allowed her to do it with less hardship.
I agree K.Michelle has no Rolling in the Deep but that's really besides the point, whether she was arguing she should get played more or not, she is right about if she was black, she would be less successful.
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But who's stay Adele and K Michelle are of "equal standing". There are many circumstances that define each other's artistry and it all comes down to what the general public can relate to and artists build a brand over time that fans grow attached to. For example, I've heard K Michelle but I don't like her voice, her tone nor do I like the fact she's fake (plastic surgery ect.) I like Adele because she's naturally curvy and has an authentic approach to her personality. None of this has to do with skin color and the fact is I have more black artists on my iTunes than white. I'm not using that to support my statement, it is just a fact.
If any other WHITE female artist sung Hello it more than likely not be a hit, unless we take an artist like Taylor Swift into account. But almost anything can be a justification when you look at it from ALL ends. To say because Adele is white being the reason Hello is successful is reverse racism. People don't love Adele because she's white. People have a connection with Adele because of her voice and because of catalog as a whole, the brand that she worked hard to make.
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Member Since: 3/27/2012
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Originally posted by TikiMiss
yeah. you don't see white artists complaining about the Beyonce circlejerk or the Shonda Rhimes or Empire worship
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Have you missed what's happening right now in response to Formation? A lot of white people cannot handle Beyoncé freely expressing her black pride.
And how do you not understand privilege still?
Black people complain because THEY are the ones that aren't treated fairly. Usually people who don't have to face the same obstacles as other people don't complain about other people's obstacles.
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Originally posted by cypriotpcdfan
I'm not talking about Adele. As i said, Adele deserves ALL the success she gets. I'm talking about radio playing whoever they want to play, whether it's racism, ageism, sexism or payola.
How is Nicole or Becky or ANY Becky suppose to built a brand and a fanbase if radios don't push her songs?
Especially Nicole. Radios have been snubbing her for years and she has released better songs that a lot of all these 'smashes'.
Songs like Run and Don't Hold Your Breath should have been HUGE especially on the radio.
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Nicole is popular here in the UK as a TV personality/celebrity. People just aren't here for their music.
If it was a race thing, she wouldn't be liked for her personality either.
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Member Since: 7/24/2008
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Originally posted by Parks
Of course it's okay.
Adele and Taylor are more popular. They've had career defining hits and highs. It's the way stardom works. Some win, some lose. You can't complain about Nicole losing like it's some big injustice. She's just not popular. 
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But if radios don't play their songs even when they are far better than 90% of what they are actually playing, how are they going to appeal to the GP and build their fanbase? It's common logic.
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Member Since: 3/27/2012
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If you're still unsure about what white privilege is, read this.
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Everybody says this and it's true.
I like Adele though.
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I cringed, people need to stop abusing the race card everywhere ...
race has nothing to do with the fact that Adele is as global and big as she is 
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Even if it's true, K. Michelle would never be able to make it passed a #15 peak on Urban radio because 1.) she's a hoodrat, 2.) she's angry and spiteful and 3.) she's relegates herself to being reality TV fodder. Nobody wants to invest in that.
I wish these bitches who aren't worth a damn would stop coming for Adele. If this was Chrisette Michele, Jill Scott or Jazmine Sullivan, then maybe. But K. Michelle - as much as I like her and her music - is overall trash.
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Member Since: 8/31/2012
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Originally posted by cypriotpcdfan
I'm not talking about Adele. As i said, Adele deserves ALL the success she gets. I'm talking about radio playing whoever they want to play, whether it's racism, ageism, sexism or payola.
How is Nicole or Becky or ANY Becky suppose to built a brand and a fanbase if radios don't push her songs?
Especially Nicole. Radios have been snubbing her for years and she has released better songs that a lot of all these 'smashes'.
Songs like Run and Don't Hold Your Breath should have been HUGE especially on the radio.
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Radio plays what the people want. Because Adele, Beyonce etc have big fanbases, radio stations play their new music to attract bigger audiences. You can't complain about radio cronyism when we've seen radio gives chances and launch the careers of tons of new/indie artists in the last couple years. I've heard Bryson Tiller, Twenty One Pilots, Elle King, Charlie Puth, Future, and a whole bunch of former nobodies on repeat over the last couple days on the radio.
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Originally posted by FutureHive
We not settling for fine.
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Blacks make up about 12% of the US population. Currently blacks make up 18% of top 40 radio and 18% of the iTunes top 40, which I'd consider better than "fine"
Now stop complaining about nonexistent issues and spend your time fighting issues that ACTUALLY exist like police brutality and racial profiling. Using your race as an excuse for being unsuccessful is totally stupid
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Member Since: 3/27/2012
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Originally posted by Toya
Everybody says this and it's true.
I like Adele though.
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Adele is great. I don’t know why people are getting so offended about it.
K.Michelle is not saying Adele has no talent, she’s arguing that her talent is better recognized because of the privilege she has a white woman. To argue and get defensive of Adele is to say that there is no difference in the way that both races are treated.
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Member Since: 3/18/2008
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i don't think anyone is denying the concept of white privilege, but it's also extremely offensive and petty for a black person to say that a white person is only successful because they're white.
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