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Fan Base: Archived: Stand Your Ground (#15)
Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
Fine, "Nasty Girl" was 15 years ago. She changed, and now she's a full-blown feminist. Sorry, I don't believe it, especially since there are recent songs that prove otherwise ("Bow Down, Bitches")
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I'm here for the Black Lives Movement or any movement that's going to further a change for a group of people, but BLM has been highly-publicized for about two years now. It doesn't need Beyoncé or any of those late-comers to push it any more further.
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By your logic of analying lyrics and pop songs, there is not a single person on this Earth that's not problematic.
So what you're saying is that BLM is better off without all the help it can get?
What is with you people losing common sense over Bey?
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Member Since: 5/17/2010
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Originally posted by Sinister
ToLove...just take the L
What you said was a problem
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The deeply ingrained self-entitlement so many of them are born with  Yikes
"I DIDN'T DOWNPLAY ANYTHING!
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BUT WHAT ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THIS OTHER MINORITY GROUP THAT I DIDN'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT BEFORE MAKING THIS POST!"
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
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Originally posted by Sinvius
The absolute STRUGGLE to find something wrong with it. She can't talk about two things in one song? Y'all are ****ing dumb |
Well if it's a purely political statement then maybe she should have placed attention on the issue and not herself?
Very distracting.
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Member Since: 1/25/2012
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Originally posted by Clump
Black people already love Beyonce, don't they? All she risks is alienating whites. Not sure how this helps her?
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And this is why I'm convinced that her entire BLM theme is genuine. If anything, it's hurting her career more than it's helping it.
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Member Since: 8/16/2011
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Originally posted by Nippy'sReceipts
Negotiations take a while. Surely, Tidal was in the works long before the public launch. Anyway, going to a rally after the verdict is good but that still doesnt mean they arent pandering. I am sure they care about black lives and police brutality (especially Jay), but they are a careful brand who makes calculated moves. That is just reality. If they are placing themselves as the celebrity epicenter of BLM, it is for a reason.
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Beyonce has quietly given $7 million throughout the past few years to the Knowles-Temenos Place Apartments in her hometown of Houston, as KHOU 11 News reported. Beyonce launched the complex in 2007 in response to the devastating aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.
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Houston, TX-- R&B megastar Beyoncé Knowles has made a personal donation of $100,000 to the Gulf Coast Ike Relief Fund, a venture established at the request of Houston Mayor Bill White to help provide food, shelter and other unmet human needs for victims of Hurricane Ike primarily in Galveston, Brazoria, Chambers, Fort Bend, Harris and Montgomery counties.
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Omg. Wow! Before even IASF! 
You done?
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Member Since: 12/5/2009
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Originally posted by lonnie
Well if it's a purely political statement then maybe she should have placed attention on the issue and not herself?
Very distracting.
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It's both political and personal, which makes it even more brilliant 
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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I love how Nick Jonas's influence on Zayn's #1 single ended Justin Bieber.
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Member Since: 6/22/2011
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But, when she didn't say anything even though she gave money to the organization numerous times, people complained. So now she's upfront about but she's not needed. Because, it's not "genuine".
I just...
She can never win with this community
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Member Since: 6/1/2010
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Originally posted by Sinvius
By your logic of analying lyrics and pop songs, there is not a single person on this Earth that's not problematic.
So what you're saying is that BLM is better off without all the help it can get?
What is with you people losing common sense over Bey?
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Ok. I'll be more open-minded. We'll see if this something Beyoncé truly feels passionate about and not just a persona she's putting on for this new era of hers. I always defend Beyoncé, but it just doesn't feel genuine to me. But neither the feminist thing, but I kept my mouth closed about that.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by lonnie
Well if it's a purely political statement then maybe she should have placed attention on the issue and not herself?
Very distracting.
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I am confident that the rest of the population has no problem grasping two concepts in one song. I wouldn't go into reasons as to why it distracts you so much, perhaps it has something to do with intelligence. 
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Member Since: 12/21/2010
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Originally posted by lonnie
It's not just that. She's normally very contradicting with the message she would like to put forth. Like how Formation is supposedly about black lives that matter yet she still talks about corny haters with illuminati mess and her Givenchy.
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The illuminati thing is referring to the fact that the entire concept belittles her. The whole concept of some hidden society creating pop stars and hip hop artists minimizing the talents and accomplishments of artists. And Givenchy is her self-referring to the fashionable black excellence that is herself (plus it's a good rhyme).
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Member Since: 12/21/2010
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Originally posted by Clump
Black people already love Beyonce, don't they? All she risks is alienating whites. Not sure how this helps her?
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Exactly. She's pissed off the Fox News crowd (that oddly tolerates Gaga now). Who cares?
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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I never really understood this whole "it doesn't feel genuine" argument. Why bother? Same thing when people complain that artists contribute to charities just for the sake of giving themselves some good reputation.
Like they donate money to these institutions and movements that will help better the world, who cares if it's not genuine? They're still doing more than any of us, bickering on a forum. 
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by primo.
The deeply ingrained self-entitlement so many of them are born with Yikes
"I DIDN'T DOWNPLAY ANYTHING!
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BUT WHAT ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THIS OTHER MINORITY GROUP THAT I DIDN'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT BEFORE MAKING THIS POST!"
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Don't you dare act like you know a damn thing about what concerns me. Just don't.
And AS IF you were giving this whole discussion a second thought before it started becoming topical on ATRL. You weren't talking about this at all before this week, as neither were most members of this site, yet I'm getting called out for making a simple observation? What a load. 
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Member Since: 11/17/2011
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Didn't Beyonce go on tour with an all female band once??? Before the entire ***Flawless
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Member Since: 6/1/2010
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Honey, Beyoncé's career is secure with or without this. Let's not play ourselves. Beyoncé has been alienating herself from white audiences for years now, starting with 4. Her career is fine and none of it is going to end it.
And also, there is more to having an agenda than just getting success.
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Member Since: 4/14/2011
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Originally posted by BoyOnBoy Wonder
Exactly. She's pissed off the Fox News crowd (that oddly tolerates Gaga now). Who cares?
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She is making jazz and dressing like a granny. It's not odd at all.
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Member Since: 8/16/2011
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Beyonce definitely just wants to make headlines  If anyone actually believes her
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Member Since: 8/16/2011
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
Fine, "Nasty Girl" was 15 years ago. She changed, and now she's a full-blown feminist. Sorry, I don't believe it, especially since there are recent songs that prove otherwise ("Bow Down, Bitches")
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Girl if you don't get....
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We raise girls to see each other as competitors, not for jobs, or for accomplishments — which I think can be a good thing — but for the attention of men.
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Beyonce saying step your p-ssy up doesn't negate her feminist credentials.
But maybe you'd identify better with the Taylor Swift form of feminism?
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@NickiMinaj I've done nothing but love & support you. It's unlike you to pit women against each other. Maybe one of the men took your slot..
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"Oh! Stick to together! Girl power! Love and hugs!"
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by Sinister
ToLove...just take the L
What you said was a problem
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Right, like try not to get your skirt caught with all that backtracking he literally said black people are moaning and need to stfu, then suddenly he understands their plight? I know this place is full of anti black bigots but at least have the balls to stick to what you say
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