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Discussion: U.S. Election 2016: Primary Season
Member Since: 7/21/2012
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Originally posted by RatedG²
I love your optimism Maxx  |
I'm very a optimistic person. Hope it doesn't bite me in the ass tho.
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Member Since: 8/31/2013
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Originally posted by Jolie's Lips
Do you guys have memory loss? Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State and she wasn't a really good one.
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Who are you talking about? The woman was brilliant in that role. Probably better than if she were to win as president.
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Member Since: 6/6/2011
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Originally posted by BoyOnBoy Wonder
Hillary was a FANTASTIC Secretary of State - that's agreed on by both parties for the most part.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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I think Hillary will somehow pull out a landslide win in NH. If she does then Bernie should drop.
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 3/22/2012
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Originally posted by hooky
I think Hillary will somehow pull out a landslide win in NH. If she does then Bernie should drop.
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You're far more optimistic than me. I don't think that's possible, myself, but never say never and all.
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Member Since: 1/3/2014
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Oh well. Hoping they ticket together.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by hooky
I think Hillary will somehow pull out a landslide win in NH. If she does then Bernie should drop.
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I don't like to sure of things but that's nearly impossible. At best she'll close in on the numbers but I feel the independent vote is really going to push Bernie over.
Anyways...
The accuracy. 
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Member Since: 8/3/2010
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Yep, agree with Mike. It's nearly impossible for a landslide win. Nate already called it in Sanders' favor too so to me it's a done deal as long as nothing happens between now and Tuesday 
Anyways this is an interesting article. Keeps people thinking, it's imperative Sanders wins NH "big" apparently. Not sure if I agree but he does need a win
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Member Since: 2/5/2014
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Few thoughts:
1) Despite Hillary winning Iowa, there's no way it isn't a loss for her in all ways except for actual delegate count. There's no reason it should've been that close at all. Months ago, no one would've remotely thought the margin would be that razor thin.
2) There's no way she's winning New Hampshire. At this point, it's just a question of how much she loses by.
3) Sanders overall campaign has been run incredibly well. Hillary's camp could take some pointers. They have a strong candidate in her, but her team has not been as effective as they should be.
4) The debate was awful. I expected so much better from MSNBC. The last GOP debate was better than that mess. Never in my life I thought I would utter these words, but Megyn Kelly did a fantastic job - much better than Rachel Maddow did. They spent way too much time on the Wall Street issue, and debating who's establishment and how isn't, and who's a real progressive. Much too little time spent on actual issues. Overall just a very poorly organized effort. Hopefully the networks will have more time to prepare for the other newly sanctioned debates.
5) Sanders needs to develop an actual foreign policy plan. Anytime he's asked an uncomfortable question he reverts to his stump speech. I was really hoping his team had prepared better responses for those questions.
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Member Since: 6/20/2012
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Originally posted by King Maxx
There are three outcomes of Tuesday:
1) Hillary loses, but trails Bernie by only a few points.
2) The race is tight like Iowa w/ Bernie winning instead of her.
3) Hillary surprises and wins by a close margin
For anyone to suggest like these polls that he will demolish her is simply wrong, and she def won't pull insane numbers over him.
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Glad to hear your nonpartisan, bias-free opinion.
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Member Since: 8/3/2010
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Is anyone watching the republican debate tonight?
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Member Since: 8/29/2011
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Originally posted by RatedG²
Is anyone watching the republican debate tonight?
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Is Trump going to be on it? I don't know at this point they are kind of saying the same damn thing lol
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Member Since: 8/3/2010
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Originally posted by Ramcoro
Is Trump going to be on it? I don't know at this point they are kind of saying the same damn thing lol
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I'm pretty sure he will be. I'll tune into it. I could always possibly vote republican come November (not likely but you never know)
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Member Since: 8/29/2011
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It is precisely Sanders’s au-naturel-ness that endears him to his young fans: his unkempt hair, his ill-fitting suits, his unpolished Brooklyn accent, his propensity to yell and wave his hands maniacally. Sanders, it appears, woke up like this.
These qualities are what make him seem “authentic,” “sincere” even — especially when contrasted with Clinton’s hyper-scriptedness. Sanders, unlike Clinton, doesn’t give a damn if he’s camera-ready.
This is, of course, a form of authenticity that is off-limits to any female politician, not just one with Clinton’s baggage.
Female politicians — at least if they want to be taken seriously on a national stage — cannot be unkempt and unfiltered, hair mussed and voice raised. They have to be carefully coifed and scripted at all times, because they have to hew as closely as possible to the bounds of propriety available to both their sex and their occupation. They can’t be too quiet or too loud, too emotional or too cold, too meek or too aggressive, and so on.
But they also can’t appear to be trying too hard, either. At least if they want the kind of enthusiastic millennial support that Sanders enjoys.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...html?tid=sm_fb
I disagree with Hillary on serveral issues, and on several of those issues I prefer Bernie. However, just because you disagree with her doesn't change the accuracy of this statement. I disagree with Sarah Palin, Carly Fiorina, and Megyn Kelly, but I still defend them from sexism. Sexism is still real and it is a challenge that even female conservatives face, despite denying it exists. Of course being a Bernie supporter does not make you sexist, anymore than supporting Obama over Sarah Palin makes you sexist. 
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Member Since: 8/29/2011
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Originally posted by RatedG²
I'm pretty sure he will be. I'll tune into it. I could always possibly vote republican come November (not likely but you never know) |
Don't do it sis. 
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Retro
You're far more optimistic than me. I don't think that's possible, myself, but never say never and all.
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Negative, I'm a Bernie supporter.
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Member Since: 3/5/2011
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Pretty crazy how the Ted Cruz hype ended right after he won Iowa, and now his poll #s are dropping. What on earth.
RatedG (or was it Benzene?) was right.
Iowa means nothing.
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Member Since: 8/3/2010
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Originally posted by Damien M
Pretty crazy how the Ted Cruz hype ended right after he won Iowa, and now his poll #s are dropping. What on earth.
RatedG (or was it Benzene?) was right.
Iowa means nothing.
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Exactly, it meant nothing. Cruz is still largely hated by everybody . As long as Bernie doesn't drag the independents to the democratic side (he shouldn't if he's this far ahead of Clinton) Trump will have a resounding win. I don't even think Cruz will place 2nd, he'll come in third at best
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 3/22/2012
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Originally posted by hooky
Negative, I'm a Bernie supporter.
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Then it's even more mystifying as to why you'd think he'll lose NH, especially by a landslide.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Bernie's gonna bern NH! No doubt about it!
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