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Originally posted by heckinglovato
This reminds me exactly of what my Republican host mom in the US used to tell me about how the "War of Southern Aggression" shouldn't have happened and people should have advocated against slavery less radically and more moderately to get change done.
I don't possess a go-radical-or-go-home ideology, I am okay with centrists as well as conservatives, I just extremely oppose the reasons that are getting you to deal with these issues that way.
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That's nothing like what I think at all??? There was enough passion and support for abolition to cause a Civil War. I don't believe that we're even a fraction of the way there.
I mean, when my reasons are not only personal views but also logical assessments of whether we *literally can even do it at all*, I just don't get where you can judge or oppose my actual reasons.
If there was support for all these things, I still wouldn't necessarily agree with them! I wouldn't agree with a $15 minimum wage because we can't economically handle it. I wouldn't support a significant revision of health care if we can bring the existing legislation to full and effective coverage more quickly and benefit more people. I wouldn't support certain economic and smoking measures if they're not going to be particularly consequential or effective.
It's more than just "we can't do it," but I also really think - not in a pessimistic way but in a raw-numbers actual limits way - that we seriously can't do it. The support and passion just is not there in the same way as other historical progressive movements. This isn't Lincoln and abolition; this isn't FDR and the New Deal. It's no the same as historic movements right now.