So the Turks who've been living in Germany for decades suddenly decided it was the right time for a rape gang when they haven't done any since their arrival eons ago ?

Anyone with even a single working brain cell could have foreseen events like this happening eons before the borders were opened to the invaders refugees.

But you can not ignore the FACT that we have immigrants in Germany from Nothern Africa or the other places mentioned living here in huge numbers for decades?

I am well aware of the possibility that there are people who just recently came to Germany are responsible for this, but this whole discussion is not focusing on what we know, not showing any empathy towards the victims but rather just pure sensation that there is a strong possibility that these who are responsible are coming from regions in this world that we currently don't want anywhere near us.

That is vile, that is populistic and xenophobic.

And saying 'it's the Turks' who've been living in Germany for decades is not vile, populistic and xenophobic in addition to it being cowardly ?

Again, dont underestimate the sudden mass of people. When you continuously integrate a decent number of outside factors into a running system, the outside factors might very well integrate. If you put too many outside factors at a time into a running system (into any), its very likely to crash. I dont see how this is difficult to comprehend.

You cannot compare having 1,7 million turks in Germany since 1950 to 1,... million arabs within one year.

Occam's razor, all I'm gonna say.

ontherocks

You don't have to twist what I am saying. I am not saying anybody from Turkey committed these crimes.
I am not saying any of them were refugees. I am not saying it couldn't be a mixture of all of the above.

All I am saying is that we know very little about the background and most importantly about the motives of those who did this.

Well Merkel got what she wanted, she can eat ****. Poor Europe

Maybe she can share a plate with our friend above you?

Could this happen to have anything to do with the influx of 'refugees', which was about 70% men in their prime by the way?

This. It's common sense.

People who have been in a place for generations and have integrated the values of the area are less likely to do this, than a mass influx of new people who don't hold those views.

First of all, I don't have any problems with you parading around your ignorance and idiocy, but at least have the balls to @me. If you wanna step in the ring, do it. If you are not capable, stay out.

I wouldn't rule the possibilty out that in this very big group of people could have also been those who live here for a few generations. When you do something like this, it needs to be organized, therefor you have to know where to move quickly with leaving no trace.

I would just like to know how sure the number of 1000 is. I mean, we know very little what was going on, but we already have numbers?

This is also not really affecting their lives in a big way. They were not targeting stores, infrastructure or anything that may affect them in their everyday-life. They were harrassing women they didn't know. So therefor, there is a possibility that people who do live in Cologne or nearby (and that for long time) were involved.

It's such a pathetic crime and I truly hope that those who were targeted recover soon and the investigations bring more light into what has happend, why and who did it.

terrible, 1000 arab men it seems, I say stop the migration before it's too late... you can't control that many people

I knew it was only a matter of time till those poor help-seeking people would feel comfortable enough to show their real faces. Havent seen it coming that early tho

lol and those twats defending them could at least try too look unbiased

For once I actually feel safer living in the US. Western Europe has really screwed itself and it's only just begun. Things are going to get really ugly. In ten years you won't even recognize France, Germany, Sweden, Norway, the UK and others.